zabo69
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hi,
what rodinal recipe gives the best result when expose to box speed?
regards,
Avelino
what rodinal recipe gives the best result when expose to box speed?
regards,
Avelino
Hp5 @400 with rodinal:best recipe
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rkm
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Massive Dev Chart says 1+50 11:00 mins at 20 degrees Celsius.
mfogiel
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Box speed for Rodinal, is already a push, as you normally lose speed with most films. How you want to develop, will depend on how much grain you want, and how high contrast you are prepared to get. For sharp, visible, but not huge grain, I would go with a 1+100 dilution, 20C and at least 21 mins, with some agitation every 3 minutes. You also have to take into account the amount of developer per roll, so if you use a big tank, it might be necessary to limit the developer to 5cc per roll.
zabo69
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hi, i want medium contrast, not to much, and minimum grain as possible 🙂
Jaans
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Hi,
I recommend that you choose your dilution depending on the amount of sun/highlights and weather conditions.
So, for a cloudy overcast day with zero or dull highlights: I would go 1:25 for 7 minutes. Agitate for the 1st 30 seconds, then 1/2 slow agitations at the start of every minute thereafter, for about 5/6 seconds. Also, keep your temperature at 19C.
I have found that keeping down the temp. along with minimal agitation can actually produce very smooth results with this combination, contrary to popular opinion.
For film shot under sunny conditions with strong highlights: I would go 1:50 for 11 minutes, with the same agitation and temperature I mentioned above.
But, for future reference, if you want great results, then try Neopan 400 or TRI-X. Neopan is the smoothest of the three with minimal grain while TRI-X is somewhere in the middle.
Personally, I rarely see the point of using 1:100 dilution, as I can get very similar results with 1:50 and lower temperatures and reduced agitation. Some people may recommend stand development but I never get results with that!Q
Photo_Smith
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What works for me is 1:50 for 11.5 mins at 18°C with agitation 30 seconds initial with one inversion per min after.
Be sure to meter for emerging detail and stop down two stops, this will give you very smooth tonal midrange and the least grain.
Although Rodinal isn't the developer for minimising grain and with some films it can appear not to give full speed it is capable of excellent results.
Sultry by Photo Utopia, on Flickr
For less grain try TMax 400 or Delta both of which work well in Rodinal.
Be sure to meter for emerging detail and stop down two stops, this will give you very smooth tonal midrange and the least grain.
Although Rodinal isn't the developer for minimising grain and with some films it can appear not to give full speed it is capable of excellent results.
Sultry by Photo Utopia, on Flickr
For less grain try TMax 400 or Delta both of which work well in Rodinal.
FrankS
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For minimum grain with 400 speed film, Rodinal is not the best developer choice. Just saying.
Gregoyle
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Ilford's developing recommendations say to use Rodinal 1+25 for 6 minutes or 1+50 for 11 minutes at 20 degrees C (68F) at EI/ISO 400.
I would start there, and adjust for the look you want. I would also second the posters who have mentioned that if you are trying to have little grain with HP5+, Rodinal is probably not the developer to use. HP5 can be developed with surprisingly little grain using developers like D76/ID11, HC110, or XTOL.
I love Rodinal, but I don't try to make it do things that it can't do.
I would start there, and adjust for the look you want. I would also second the posters who have mentioned that if you are trying to have little grain with HP5+, Rodinal is probably not the developer to use. HP5 can be developed with surprisingly little grain using developers like D76/ID11, HC110, or XTOL.
I love Rodinal, but I don't try to make it do things that it can't do.
Photo_Smith
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Hp5 can be developed with surprisingly little grain with Rodinal (If you know what to do)
In fact you'd be hard pressed to tell D76 and Rodinal apart up to 15x enlargement.
Even when pushed to 1600:
In fact you'd be hard pressed to tell D76 and Rodinal apart up to 15x enlargement.
Even when pushed to 1600:
Sejanus.Aelianus
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Got to agree with that. Perceptol works well with HP5. Also, although not recommended by Ilford, I've had some pleasing results with HP5/Ilfosol 3.
zabo69
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gsgary
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1+100 and 1 hour in the fridge, temp started at 17degs and when it came out of the fridge it was 13.5degs
henri klein
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I stick to 1+25 for 6 minutes at 20 degrees C (68F) at EI/ISO 400. And I actually do like the combination.
wallace
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I used to soup everything in Rodinal. I might go back to this practice again because it is so dam convenient. With 120 film I find grain acceptable when
diluted 1:50 and temperature not higher than 19°C (very important!!), slow movement, I used to do 2 turns per minute. You should make tests to find the right speed (start with ISO 200) and time for development based on your method of movement. I never used HP5...
Example with APX400, Rodinal 1:50, 20°C (to warm already!), Fuji GS645s:
Example with TRI-X, shot with Olympus Trip35:
Much less grain with Tmax 400, also shot with Oly Trip 35 (look for big size on my flickr account):
my flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/47154683@N00/
Thomas
diluted 1:50 and temperature not higher than 19°C (very important!!), slow movement, I used to do 2 turns per minute. You should make tests to find the right speed (start with ISO 200) and time for development based on your method of movement. I never used HP5...
Example with APX400, Rodinal 1:50, 20°C (to warm already!), Fuji GS645s:
Example with TRI-X, shot with Olympus Trip35:
Much less grain with Tmax 400, also shot with Oly Trip 35 (look for big size on my flickr account):
my flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/47154683@N00/
Thomas
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