normb
Member
Prepare yourselves for a story of defeat snatched from the jaws of victory.. :bang:
I dismantled my gsn according to the instructions from this site and from yashica-guy (a big thanks to all of you, you're all a tremendous resource), found the POD, actually I found a grease spot where the pad should have been. I cut a new pad, super glued it in place, re-assembled and tested it, and lo and behold, it all worked great. I was so proud until....
I noticed that when I changed the ASA setting, the numbers rotated with the outer selector dial. so I went to tighten up the center screw and it came off in my snap ring pliers. Aproximately half of the screw is in the post and it will no longer screw in place... sigh..
I would guess my next option would be to find a parts electro and replace the ASA selection assembly. Does anyone have an alternate suggestion?
I dismantled my gsn according to the instructions from this site and from yashica-guy (a big thanks to all of you, you're all a tremendous resource), found the POD, actually I found a grease spot where the pad should have been. I cut a new pad, super glued it in place, re-assembled and tested it, and lo and behold, it all worked great. I was so proud until....
I noticed that when I changed the ASA setting, the numbers rotated with the outer selector dial. so I went to tighten up the center screw and it came off in my snap ring pliers. Aproximately half of the screw is in the post and it will no longer screw in place... sigh..
I would guess my next option would be to find a parts electro and replace the ASA selection assembly. Does anyone have an alternate suggestion?
bmarkmain
bmarkmain
Replacement screw
Replacement screw
I can give you a replacement screw for the one that is broken. Maybe someone has an idea of how to extract the broken piece. Did it break when you were tightening it?
Replacement screw
I can give you a replacement screw for the one that is broken. Maybe someone has an idea of how to extract the broken piece. Did it break when you were tightening it?
ErnestoJL
Well-known
There are not too many ways to try to recover the remnants of the screw unless you´re damn lucky and the broken screw protrudes a little form the post.
In this case is just a matter of getting a very good and thin needle nose plier, and carefully unscrew it.
If not, one thing you can try with extreme care, is to take the whole ASA dial assembly out of the camera, and with a very thin jigsaw try to cut a thin slot in the screw (and the post of course). Later with a watchmakers flat screwdriver, try to unscrew it. This procedure is risky and I wouldn´t give any warranty of success, but is the only I know.
Hopefully, the screw isn´t stuck to the bottom of the thread.
Perhaps, there was a thin spacer washer betwen the screwhead and the ASA dial, which wasn´t fitted during reassembly.
If you can get a parts camera, do it!
Good luck!
In this case is just a matter of getting a very good and thin needle nose plier, and carefully unscrew it.
If not, one thing you can try with extreme care, is to take the whole ASA dial assembly out of the camera, and with a very thin jigsaw try to cut a thin slot in the screw (and the post of course). Later with a watchmakers flat screwdriver, try to unscrew it. This procedure is risky and I wouldn´t give any warranty of success, but is the only I know.
Hopefully, the screw isn´t stuck to the bottom of the thread.
Perhaps, there was a thin spacer washer betwen the screwhead and the ASA dial, which wasn´t fitted during reassembly.
If you can get a parts camera, do it!
Good luck!
I had this happen on my Nikon SP as I wes removing the front bezel to clean it. I carved a new slot into the remaining section of the screw, essentially making it a set screw, and used a fine screwdriver to get it out. It was slow and painful, but worked.
normb
Member
I'll try the sewing needle trick. I'm hoping that the stub it not too tightly screwed in the post. It doesn't protrude from the post and I was in the process of tightening it down more to keep the ASA dial from spinning, so right now my guess is that it's going to be a job getting it out.
bmarkmain: Thanks for the offer on the replacement screw, I may have to take you up on that if I can't find a parts camera. I won't be able to get back to my gsn for a few days, I'll be out of town. I was kind of hoping to take my gsn with me.. oh well. It has been a good learning experience and a good excuse to go by some new tools..
Thanks for all the help and advice.
bmarkmain: Thanks for the offer on the replacement screw, I may have to take you up on that if I can't find a parts camera. I won't be able to get back to my gsn for a few days, I'll be out of town. I was kind of hoping to take my gsn with me.. oh well. It has been a good learning experience and a good excuse to go by some new tools..
Thanks for all the help and advice.
john neal
fallor ergo sum
Norm,
I have managed to get screws out with a piece of toothpick and cyano - glue the pick to the stub of the screw and out she comes.
If you fail to get the little beggar out, I can offer you 2 routes to salvation - a parts GSN, or just the control board assembly. Let me know if you need either.
Regards
John
I have managed to get screws out with a piece of toothpick and cyano - glue the pick to the stub of the screw and out she comes.
If you fail to get the little beggar out, I can offer you 2 routes to salvation - a parts GSN, or just the control board assembly. Let me know if you need either.
Regards
John
jon_flanders
Well-known
Too bad they don't make EZ outs and left hand drills this size...................but unless you really bottomed the screw out and stretched the threads you should be able to remove by one of the methods described in this thread.
normb
Member
Ok, I got the screw backed out successfully using a combination of the toothpick and superglue and the sewing needle tricks.
bmarkmain: Is the offer for the replacement screw still good? If so, please send me an email and we can work out the details from there.. thanks...
Norm
bmarkmain: Is the offer for the replacement screw still good? If so, please send me an email and we can work out the details from there.. thanks...
Norm
bmarkmain
bmarkmain
Hi normb,
Glad you got the screw out. No problem on sending you the replacement screw. I left you a private message with details.
bmarkmain
Glad you got the screw out. No problem on sending you the replacement screw. I left you a private message with details.
bmarkmain
normb
Member
advice on asa dial re-assembly
advice on asa dial re-assembly
Since I'll soon be putting my asa dial back together, does anyone have a good technique for keeping the number dial from rotating while tightening the cap screw? What ended up getting me in trouble the first time was trying to keep the dial from rotating away from the index mark (I disassembled it with the dial set at 100). I was trying to hold the dial, and tighten the screw, which apparently resulted in applying too much pressure to the screw and snapping it.
advice on asa dial re-assembly
Since I'll soon be putting my asa dial back together, does anyone have a good technique for keeping the number dial from rotating while tightening the cap screw? What ended up getting me in trouble the first time was trying to keep the dial from rotating away from the index mark (I disassembled it with the dial set at 100). I was trying to hold the dial, and tighten the screw, which apparently resulted in applying too much pressure to the screw and snapping it.
john neal
fallor ergo sum
Since I'm not so good at super precision, I use 3 short strips of masking tape across the edge of the dial and onto the body in a triangle to stop the dial moving. I have done it the other way and scratched a dial :bang:
normb
Member
So I get home from work yesterday, and the replacement ASA dial screw was in the mail (thanks bmarkmain). Before eating my dinner, I _carefully_ reassembled my ASA dial, glued the leatherette and name tags back on. Now I have a perfectly functioning Electro 35 again. Now the next decision I have to make is whether to test it with a roll of Tri-X or Kodachrome (I'm leaning towards Kodachrome).
Thanks to everyone for all the help with a special thank to bmarkmain for the replacement screw. I'll post some photos soon.
Thanks to everyone for all the help with a special thank to bmarkmain for the replacement screw. I'll post some photos soon.