I miss my T4, looking for a new compact

jaimiepeeters said:
I must admit that when I read you name so many camera's I start to doubt their quality level. It seems impossible that all of them deliver the same sharpness... or am I wrong?
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Hi,

Why? Perhaps I ought to explain that I've been collecting the things and using them since the late 1950's and have been going through the heap for the last four years or so in a desperate attempt to get it manageable. So I've been throwing out a few, before or after testing, and selling or worrying about the rest.

As for delivering "the same sharpness", all I can say is that sharpness is just one of the factors in a decision. How the thing handles is important, what say it gives you in matters is also important. A lot of them are great cameras on a sunny day with a bit of light cloud in the sky and you standing with the light somewhere behind you and a 400ASA Kodak film in them. But those same cameras can be dreadfull in other ways; f'instance AF in dull light, when the flash fires, power switches next to the shutter button and so on. So really you are trying to balance a lot of factors.

And testing sharpness (apart from being a waste of time imo) is difficult with these little P&S's because you cannot set the aperture or even know what it is with pure P&S's.

There's another factor with P&S's; I often grab pictures and hope they'll come out. And that's all you can do with a P&S sometimes. The better ones cope but may not be the sharpest. And if the power switch is next to the shutter button then after a while you'll ignore everything else and dump the thing.

Having said that I'll add that I don't think I've ever suggested a camera that I don't own and haven't used. And most of my cameras recommended are in the "how can I justify keeping all these" or "really useful" heap. Reason suggests I should have just one of two cameras but the heart thinks otherwise.

Regards, David

PS I don't really think there's such a thing as a perfect P&S but there's a lot that score 9 out of 10 on my score card.
 
kdemas said:
If you reallllllly miss the Tix David I have two, great camera. A little titanium beauty with a cracker or a lens... Kent
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Hi,

Thanks for the offer; it's very tempting but I'm trying to get the collection down to a manageable size at present. I've about 70 or so in the heap and the decisions are doing my head in. Well, trying to justify keeping it is causing problems. It ought to be possible to have just half a dozen cameras and use them all but...

Regards, David
 
David Hughes said:
Hi,

Why? Perhaps I ought to explain that I've been collecting the things and using them since the late 1950's and have been going through the heap for the last four years or so in a desperate attempt to get it manageable. So I've been throwing out a few, before or after testing, and selling or worrying about the rest.

As for delivering "the same sharpness", all I can say is that sharpness is just one of the factors in a decision. How the thing handles is important, what say it gives you in matters is also important. A lot of them are great cameras on a sunny day with a bit of light cloud in the sky and you standing with the light somewhere behind you and a 400ASA Kodak film in them. But those same cameras can be dreadfull in other ways; f'instance AF in dull light, when the flash fires, power switches next to the shutter button and so on. So really you are trying to balance a lot of factors.

And testing sharpness (apart from being a waste of time imo) is difficult with these little P&S's because you cannot set the aperture or even know what it is with pure P&S's.

There's another factor with P&S's; I often grab pictures and hope they'll come out. And that's all you can do with a P&S sometimes. The better ones cope but may not be the sharpest. And if the power switch is next to the shutter button then after a while you'll ignore everything else and dump the thing.

Having said that I'll add that I don't think I've ever suggested a camera that I don't own and haven't used. And most of my cameras recommended are in the "how can I justify keeping all these" or "really useful" heap. Reason suggests I should have just one of two cameras but the heart thinks otherwise.

Regards, David

PS I don't really think there's such a thing as a perfect P&S but there's a lot that score 9 out of 10 on my score card.
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Thanks for the explanation! I've been looking up the cameras you suggested, but none of them are sold currently on the Dutch sites.

I did see a canon af35m ... Is that one up there too??
 
The AF35M is a fine camera with somewhat limited controls, but an excellent lens. It is the original Canon Sure Shot.
 
Greyscale said:
I think that I would rather have that Minolta than an MjuII. I have never seen one in silver before. Good luck :)
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Fully agreed...just do not remember if AF-C does fill flash as nice as Mju II but lens-wise AF-C is hard to beat. Also AF-C does not do long exposures but rest is only the best.

Years before I tried to contact seller through that site and never got response, probably they do not replay to non-native messages. Missed awesome Yashica 72-E kit and out of pity never looked back. So you have there nice shallow pond for fishing, without piranhas from outside :)
 
jaimiepeeters said:
Pentax Espio AF ZOOM ?

Pentax Pino 35 E ?
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Pentax Pino 35E looks like a PC35AF with a slower lens. I probably wouldn't pay too much for it. What photos from it that I found online looked good, though.

The Espio AF Zoom should be a good one. Espio/IQZoom was Pentax line of high-end compact zooms, I have several and like them all a lot. The Espio 628 and Espio Mini (UC-1) seem to be the most sought after. I'm not sure which model you are referring to, there are many Espios.
 
And if you want to spend a lot of money on a superb lens try the Leica C3 but be aware that it is a pure P&S. You push the shutter button and load the film and that's it. But the lens is a Leica Vario Elmar 28-80mm zoom ASPH... I think there's some control over the flash too. And I use slide film in mine.

And there's the cheapo Leica mini; here's a sample picture.

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BTW, the Leica mini comes cheap and/or dear because, although it has the magic name "Leica" on it and the red logo, people often don't believe it's a serious pocket camera: well, it is, it's a P&S too.

Regards, David

PS Just noticed the noise in the picture; sorry about that. It's a supermarket scan that I use for cataloguing them.
 
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