i want an r4a

[back alley]

i love the r4m i have, i like the feel of the camera, the tiny lenses and the built in wide framelines.

but the zi has spoiled me for auto exposure!! and i want an r4a.

maybe by christmas...

joe

 

[FrankS]

Yeah, auto exposure can spoil you. I am ambivalent about it. On the one hand, it makes photography easier, on the other hand, it makes me lazy and takes some of my connectedness away from my photography, as though I lose something - give something away to AE. Manual exposure forces one to think about exposure, with AE you have to force yourself to think, or get lazy and let the camera think exposure for you.

 

[back alley]

i am lazy.

joe

 

[stevew]

Auto exp is sure handy for tricky lighting situations, but it can mess you up too. On a bright sunny days with constant lighting you can have wildly varying exposures although the lighting hasn't changed, incident works best for that.

 

[peter_n]

Good decision Joe.

 

[erikhaugsby]

Why not have both? 😀

 

[Trius]

joe: I handled Jan's R4A today, and wow, it is a sweet machine. He got the A instead of the M because Stephen had one that had been returned but in new condition, so it was a bit cheaper. I'd go for the M myself, but I can't afford it right now, especially with no M lenses at hand.

I don't know how Jan feels about the A vs. the M ... you could always ask about a trade.

 

[back alley]

i think i want to keep the m.
the a will have to wait till i can save a few bucks.

 

[kshapero]

Gee I have a ZI and I love it but has made me lazy. I was a better photographer with the R3M. Hmmmmmmm.

 

[back alley]

Gee I have a ZI and I love it but has made me lazy. I was a better photographer with the R3M. Hmmmmmmm.

i did not say that!

and there is no reason to try to start that argument here.

joe

 

[Trius]

So, joe, you're not done? (couldn't resist!)

 

[irq506]

Yeah I hear you.
I am doing well with a fully manual camera after 15 year hiatus, however, for slide film the latidues are so tight that AE is necessary for the way I like to shoot.

 

[kshapero]

i did not say that!

and there is no reason to try to start that argument here.

joe

I was responding more to Frank S. All this could just be a GAS attack. At least for me it is.😱

 

[jan normandale]

I've got a "m" M4-P but the R4A is better than taping the film box's exposure guide to the back of the camera ;- )

 

[back alley]

i had an m4-p many years ago.
i regret selling that one.

if ya want to trade for a great om kit (2 bodies and 3 lenses), let me know 🙂

joe

 

[back alley]

So, joe, you're not done? (couldn't resist!)

of course i'm not done...well, sorta...mostly, i can live with this current set up but for the laziness!

joe

 

[Doug]

...but the zi has spoiled me for auto exposure!! and i want an r4a.

I sympathize with that desire... I chose the R4A because of the auto-exposure convenience. I'm not put off by the electronic dependence, as I have a couple of early-70's vintage Pentaxes with electronic shutter control that are still running fine. Of course if something did go wrong with the circuitry that couldn't be repaired, they'd be dead & useless. But then I don't consider them or the R4A as heirlooms anyway, just for me to enjoy as long as we're collectively workable! If you get an R4A, Joe, I wish you pleasant use. 🙂

 

[cmedin]

I can't stand full program mode, but I do enjoy using aperture priority cameras. Not sure I agree with it making you lazy; it's just a different approach. I mean, if you're using a match-needle setup all you're doing is fiddling with the controls until the camera says your exposure is right. How's that any more pure or better than setting the parameter that's important to the shot (shutter or aperture) and letting the camera 'line up the needles' if you will? If you're compensating in your head for a particular lighting condition you can apply the same compensation to an AE camera as you could on a manual one...

Now, if you're talking AE vs going meterless, then it's certainly different! 🙂

 

[oscroft]

When I was deciding between the two (R4A vs R4M), I chose the A and don't regret it - the auto exposure is really handy for quick (and lazy) shooting, and it's easy to use on manual when I need to.

 

[Photog9001]

i love the r4m i have, i like the feel of the camera, the tiny lenses and the built in wide framelines.

but the zi has spoiled me for auto exposure!! and i want an r4a.

maybe by christmas...

joe

sell the zikon?
, )