Identification help sought Leica IIIc ?

[McLeo]

Hi
I have been tasked with clearing out my father-in-law's loft..There are several cameras and I am trying to id this one.
I think it's a Llllc but have also read that as it's a black body this may not be the case.
Can someone advise?
Many thanks
K

 

[Sonnar Brian]

This is a Leica III, must have been services as it has a new covering. It also has a Flash Sync added, something that was popular to do in the 1950s and 1960s. The camera was made in the early 1930s.

Leica III (model F) - Leica Wiki (English)

wiki.l-camera-forum.com

The lens- "Maybe" a little bit later. The condition of the front element of the lens is important, the glass was soft. Close enough that these may have been sold together, but hard to know without a sales slip.

Summar f= 5 cm 1:2 - Leica Wiki (English)

wiki.l-camera-forum.com

 

[McLeo]

Thank you. You think it's an F not a C?
The flash being a customisation or a feature of the later model in general?
Thanks again

 

[Dralowid]

Not sure I have read the body's serial number correctly, is it 117337?

From the references I use the lens is 1935 and the body 1933 based on the above.

 

[Sonnar Brian]

It is a Leica III. This was also called the Model F, and to really confuse things: Leica started adding letters after the "III". The Leica IIIF is not a Model F.

SO: this is a Leica III with the flash sync added later. I have one like it, about the same age.

 

[Nitroplait]

Thank you. You think it's an F not a C?
The flash being a customisation or a feature of the later model in general?
Thanks again

It is not a IIIF nor a IIIC - it is a III (model F) as Brian notes. The flash sync is not made by Leica. It is an aftermarket customization - not something that adds to the value but tells us that the camera was used and enjoyed for a long time.

 

[Bolo Kukus]

Whatever its identity, overall it looks like a very nice camera. In reasonably good nick for its age.

But I'm curious about the lens. It looks to have no markings on the front. Is there a filter on it?

It's probably an early collapsible Elmar 50/3.5, without markings?

My Leica reference books are not here with me, but I dimly recall there was a 50 predating the Elmar. Which Leitz may have manufactured into the 1930s.

Maybe you could post another photo of the lens without the filter. To please at least one person's curiosity...?

 

[wlewisiii]

I'm curious about the lens. It looks to have no markings on the front.

Is there a filter on it?

I suspect it's likely an early collapsible Elmar 50/3.5, without markings? Odd, this.

Maybe you could post another photo of the lens without the filter. To please at least one person's curiosity...?

Huh? That's a fairly decent 50/2 Summar collapsed into the camera, no filter. Not sure what you're seeing there, sir.

 

[Bolo Kukus]

Huh? That's a fairly decent 50/2 Summar collapsed into the camera, no filter. Not sure what you're seeing there, sir.

Neither am I, TBH. For all I know it could have been the lens on a colonoscopy camera whatsis.

 

[Muggins]

I'm a bit concerned as to which end you are looking at...

 

[WoodallP]

I'm a bit concerned as to which end you are looking at...

Or even who’s end in this context!