IF a fast ZM 50mm came out - f1 or f1.2?

IF a fast ZM 50mm came out - f1 or f1.2?

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JSU said:
Though not a 50, my L-Hex 60/1.2 focusses down to 0.80m and I believe the Hex 50/1.2 does as well. Granted they are both out of production.
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The 50/1.2 only goes to 0.9m.

kzphoto said:
The Hex 50 f/1.2 is an amazing lens but a bit unwieldy. They're too large for normal RF use. Having seen the performance of a Planar 50 f/1.4 on the Nikon, I think Zeiss could push the envelope a bit and make a faster Planar.

I haven't used the 60 f/1.2 Hex, but I imagine it to be fantastic as well. 58mm filter thread means it's probably a bit lighter than the 50 f/1.2 Hex.
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In hand, they feel roughly the same weight. (60 a touch lighter, perhaps) I find the 60 easier to manipulate, but the odd FL a bit awkward for framing.


1.2 adds another bokeh tool to a lens, as I'm sure 1.0 does. 1.4 works, but 1.2 does all 1.4 does plus can take out muggers more easily. :D
 
flip said:
The 50/1.2 only goes to 0.9m.



In hand, they feel roughly the same weight. (60 a touch lighter, perhaps) I find the 60 easier to manipulate, but the odd FL a bit awkward for framing.


1.2 adds another bokeh tool to a lens, as I'm sure 1.0 does. 1.4 works, but 1.2 does all 1.4 does plus can take out muggers more easily. :D
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Flip was in Tokyo recently and didn't see any 60mm Hex. Do you know of any available?
 
leicashot said:
Flip was in Tokyo recently and didn't see any 60mm Hex. Do you know of any available?
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It's been a while. Even at auction they have become scarce and pricey. I attribute it to glowing reviews on websites such as this. :eek: There was a point last year when I saw both he original and the new version on auction simultaneously. Oh, the lust....

I stave off the expensive lust associated with fast Leicas by not buying their lenses. :D
 
1.2 is enough. Agree with many people have indicated, I prefer they can come out a small but big aperture lens as Canon50/1.5.
 
jsrockit said:
Well, that's part of the sonnar design. Who's to say a new lens would not have it?
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Of course a new Zeiss f/1.4 WITH focus shift and magic rendering (watever that means) is not an option.
But there is a crowd out there that don't buy their fast 50 because of the focus shift. So maybe there would be a different market for a Planar 1.4 that would not force you to make the pigeon moves every time you are at the wrong distance at the wrong aperture...
Or...

Or they could include a floating element to correct the focus shift (hope that's not nonsense, my understanding is that FEs are used for that purpose). Now an FE with a good wobble in the lens... Yummy:rolleyes:

Of course, an f/1.4 35mm and f/2 28mm are also urgently required.
and a reasonably priced 85/90 f/2 would make sense too.
OK, just dreaming...
 
Of course they could bring out a f1.2 Planar! (but In guest it would be bigger than the Uber Sonnar, but less focus shift and vignetting). Double Negative is right. With large aperture lenses, you will get a slight amount of focus shift when you stop down unless you have aspherical or floating elements.
 
semilog said:
Who cares, if it's an SLR lens? Focus shift is really only a big deal when you're dealing with a camera that doesn't use the picture-taking lens to set or verify focus.
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Not sure about that...

you focus at the largest aperture, then the picture is taken at a different aperture. It seems reasonable to suppose that you can have focus shift.
 
sanmich said:
Not sure about that...

you focus at the largest aperture, then the picture is taken at a different aperture. It seems reasonable to suppose that you can have focus shift.
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Interesting point. Of course for a modern AF lens, that's the sort of information that's on the chip, and (assuming the engineers have done their jobs) the camera compensates.
 
I say a 0.85 or 0.95 ZM 50 sounds good, would be a chunk of glass, but if they could pull one off in the $4,500 to $5,500 range, they would still sell ~ with a Uber Sonnar like signature, aspherical glass and optimised at 0.85 or 0.95 and an accessory shoe finder with the lens (sold together included in the price) while this lens is going to take out some VF viewpoints for sure...........

I never liked the signatures of the Noctilux or the Nokton and the Canon 0.95 is overated and very overpriced , for me the Canon f1.2 works just as well, but a super fast ZM lens would be a nice
"in-between" priced super fast lens, that's if Zeiss would be able to pull it off at such a price????? Doubtful.........

And build it in Japan, NOT Germany, they would just tag an extra $4,000 on it just for that countries name and at $8,500 to $9,500 you might as well save some more money and just go ahead and buy the 0.95 Lux! :p

Tom
 
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