If someone else made a FF digital RF?

If someone else made a FF digital RF?

  • Yes, as well as an M9

    Votes: 16 2.8%

  • Yes, instead of an M9

    Votes: 201 35.3%

  • Maybe, depends on the body

    Votes: 248 43.5%

  • Probably not, but possibly

    Votes: 44 7.7%

  • No

    Votes: 45 7.9%

  • Other

    Votes: 16 2.8%
  • Total voters
    570
My first post here and here is my 'penny's worth ' No I wouldn't buy a different FF rangefider if anyone made one as I have only recently bought an M9, so that is one good reason to vote no! With regards a possible M10 and video, some pro photographers would love it. A lot of pro photographers are getting asked more and more to do video and the other makers are doing it so Leica would be catching up. Two downsides of course to a leica with movie the price and of course the lack of zoom facility. Now if Leica could produce a zoom rangefinder with video well that would be something !!!
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Of course Canon could do it. It is wildly improbable that they would do it -- "it" being a FF camera with native M or M39 mount.

EOS-M(irrorless) I do expect to see. Canon is all about the proprietary lock-in: they know you'll buy a new body every three years and they want you to own lenses that will oblige you to make that new body a Canon. The new mount will have full contacts to talk to existing EOS lenses through an adaptor. If the body takes M lenses it will also be through an adaptor, as on the X-Pro.

FF? Probably not. Canon's engineers are too smart for that. They'll go with 1.6 crop. Though I wouldn't rule out FF altogether. Odds against I'd put at 5:2.
 
I would be happy with a stripped down Canon 5DMKxx perhaps a small lcd display to show the settings. Put a Zeiss lens on it and start shooting. Should not be to hard for Canon to make something like that...
 
semilog said:
$ aside, a Lotus Seven beats that over the head for soul any day.
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While I love Lotus Sevens and find them terrific kit cars, a Morgan three-wheeler has them beat hands down for soul, and the SWB goes way beyond that for me.

Which just goes to prove that passionate enthusiasts of any persuasion will have to accept that opinions will differ. :)
 
Our old discussions now out on the better known gear site...
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I hope they follow Sony's CD player design philosophy and remove most of the buttons from the camera and put them on an external remote. Also, both the remote and camera should have individual buttons for direct access to each image by frame number, much like audio tracks on a CD. Perhaps they could be numbered 1 through 80 and then have a >80 button for the rest. ;)
 
I like the fact my link to this excessive camera body draft has scared a few here :cool:
But the author is not completely wrong. The problem is, he tries to combine classic design and controls with the many additional functions of a digital body (ISO, WB, VF modes, film modes). To still be used intuitive, you need a different look and feel of the switches for different functions and no menu selections for daily use actions. With the experience you will find these controls without a look at the body, even if you have many of it. An excellent ergonomic example was the last professional Minolta film body Maxxum/Dynax 9 (just look at the images, there is no english wiki article).

Back to the topic here: What I don't get is where we are going to dream here: Do we expect from "another FF M mount body" the simple root functions like a FF update of the R-D1? Or a more modern approach like an upgrade of the X-Pro1 idea? Is the new M-240 already too much of compatibility and technical gimmics?
 
Epson/Cosina are sitting on their corporate hands with the answer at their feet. A FF RD-2 at about $3000 US would be a winner in my book.
 
monochrome?

monochrome?

I am dreaming of the M Mono. If someone will be crazy enough to make a competitor for the M9, it will for sure not be monochrome.

If a reasonably priced rangefinder came to the market with a good finder and manual focus, I might start thinking.

An M9 is cheaper than am M mono, but not so much; a digital ZI would probably be really cheaper, that might make me think again....
 
dct said:
Back to the topic here: What I don't get is where we are going to dream here: Do we expect from "another FF M mount body" the simple root functions like a FF update of the R-D1? Or a more modern approach like an upgrade of the X-Pro1 idea? Is the new M-240 already too much of compatibility and technical gimmics?
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No, we just hope for something more affordable.

But we will not get it. You need to make millions to get these things to the normal price range, and you can never sell millions of manual focus cameras, whatever we think here on RFF
 
dct said:
Our old discussions now out on the better known gear site...
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"Lens is an ultra-fast 24-105 zoom, with aperture, zoom and manual focus rings, with switchable Vibration Reduction control"

I would like to live on this planet where ultrafast wide angle zooms no bigger than pancakes existed, and therein lies the killer, imo - I can never see Canon/ Nikon having the balls to release a new camera that require prime lenses to make the whole concept make sense in terms of size.
 
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