Stephanie Brim
Mental Experimental.
Sorry that you have to give the camera back so soon...but when you get it back again it'll be like opening yet another new toy. 
As for the nudes...that's *my* department. *evil grin*
As for the nudes...that's *my* department. *evil grin*
FrankS
Registered User
I don't know why, but I'm looking forward to one more than the other.
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wlewisiii
Guest
Not going there. Nope. Not at all...
:angel:
What?
William
:angel:
What?
William
Stephanie Brim
Mental Experimental.
If you guys could see the look I'm giving you right now... 
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Way
Guest
Joe,
So what is the problem with the camera? The 50/35 framelines?
Way
So what is the problem with the camera? The 50/35 framelines?
Way
back alley said:on a more serious note, the zi is repacked in it's box and then in another box and will be shipped back to california tomorrow.
kinda sad but i think it's best to get it right from the beginning.
i have 2 rolls of film taken with it that i need to process. no great art, just some snaps done as quick practice and to see what the lens looks like. i will post a few (no matter how poor) so you all can see for yourselves also.
joe
sircarl
Well-known
I confess I haven't been following the rollout of the ZI too closely. But in the two accounts from new owners that I have read (Mike Elek and now Joe's), each of them have had to return their camera soon after getting it because of -- what I assume to be -- manufacturer defects. Any idea how common this has been so far?
And in case anyone wonders where this is coming from, it's from someone who has used, and adored, Zeiss lenses for many years, and who hopes the ZI will be a smashing success!
And in case anyone wonders where this is coming from, it's from someone who has used, and adored, Zeiss lenses for many years, and who hopes the ZI will be a smashing success!
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Socke
Guest
sircarl said:I confess I haven't been following the rollout of the ZI too closely. But in the two accounts from new owners that I have read (Mike Elek and now Joe's), each of them have had to return their camera soon after getting it because of -- what I assume to be -- manufacturer defects. Any idea how common this has been so far?
And in case anyone wonders where this is coming from, it's from someone who has used, and adored, Zeiss lenses for many years, and who hopes the ZI will be a smashing success!
I'm a bit woried, too. I'd exepected better QC from them. Two reports of defects are not much, but it's two reports from the only two owners we know here :-(
back alley
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the only problem i had with the camera was that it did not focus at infinty, it was off.
i only noticed it because it was something that i check when i get any new to me camera.
i don't shoot landscapes/cityscapes very much, mostly street scenes at about 10 feet or less so for all practical purposes i could have continued to use the camera. but i thought it best to have it alligned properly while still new and so it would not be missed too much.
the rest of the camera semed fine. nice weight and balance and the lens felt lovely on the camera. it's a good size for focussing and very smooth to operate.
it's feels like a prestige camera.
joe
i only noticed it because it was something that i check when i get any new to me camera.
i don't shoot landscapes/cityscapes very much, mostly street scenes at about 10 feet or less so for all practical purposes i could have continued to use the camera. but i thought it best to have it alligned properly while still new and so it would not be missed too much.
the rest of the camera semed fine. nice weight and balance and the lens felt lovely on the camera. it's a good size for focussing and very smooth to operate.
it's feels like a prestige camera.
joe
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maybe, but with it being brand spankin' new i thought it best to hand it off to the experts.
i have done the p on my own.
i have done the p on my own.
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
back alley said:i have done the p on my own.
that's expected, you're a big boy now.
back alley
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i should have seen that one coming...
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
fits with my avatar, by the way. 
How's your health doing? I reckon you have to be careful in extremely cold weather.
How's your health doing? I reckon you have to be careful in extremely cold weather.
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feelin' pretty good.
we are currently enoying one of the mildest winters on record.
hardly any snow.
i like it!
we are currently enoying one of the mildest winters on record.
hardly any snow.
i like it!
back alley
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yeah, nothing but puddles everywhere
Huck Finn
Well-known
back alley said:the only problem i had with the camera was that it did not focus at infinty, it was off.
i only noticed it because it was something that i check when i get any new to me camera.
i don't shoot landscapes/cityscapes very much, mostly street scenes at about 10 feet or less so for all practical purposes i could have continued to use the camera. but i thought it best to have it alligned properly while still new and so it would not be missed too much.
the rest of the camera semed fine. nice weight and balance and the lens felt lovely on the camera. it's a good size for focussing and very smooth to operate.
it's feels like a prestige camera.
joe
Joe, some thoughts on your misaligned rangefinder . . .
I noticed in reading Erwin Puts' ZI review that he notes that "the optical construction of the finder has it sroots in the classical M3 finder and not the current M6 design."
So, I thought that I'd look to see what Erwin has to say about the finder of the M3: "The optical construction of the M3 range/viewfinder is different from that of all successor models. It is more elaborate to build, more sensitive to shocks and abuses . . . On the other hand, it gives a very clear (if not the most contrasty) life size view that is remarkably flare free when used in adverse Lighting conditions."
There must be a reason why Zeiss chose a more elaborate - & therefore more expensive - rangefinder design rather than adopting the simpler one that Cosina already had available. I have read elsewhere that the rangefinder of the M3 has greater focusing precision. So, it would seem that they chose the focusing advantages, the clear view, & the resistance to flare over the simpler design but may have done so at the expense of it being more "sensitive." No one has ever accused the M3 of being fragile nor has it ever been considered anything other than robust, so it must have seemed that this was not a high risk.
All of the above is pure speculation on my part, but it may bear watching. Just thinking out loud . . .
Huck
back alley
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huck, have you read zeiss fan's zeiss blog?
he has the comparison diagrams to support what you are saying.
the zeiss was easy to focus and i'm eager to see the m3 next to it.
he has the comparison diagrams to support what you are saying.
the zeiss was easy to focus and i'm eager to see the m3 next to it.
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ch1
Guest
It will be interesting if you learn how the first ZI got out of alignment. Hopefully a one-off problem due to some ham-handed delivery guy and not a QC problem.
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