I'm searching for a 28mm Camera

[Bryce]

Here's another possibility-
Fuji's GS645w was a 6x4.5, scale focus viewfinder camera with a 45mm F 5.6 lens. So 28mm equivalent FOV.
It may cost more than you're willing to pay, lens speed may be an issue, and getting, developing and scanning 120 film can be a problem. Also, the camera is roughly the same size as a '70's era 35mm slr. Image quality will blow 35mm away though, so your priorities would have to decide whether it is right for you.

 

[der.chris.tian]

Charjohncarter,
hm. I have to admit I'm not gettng it. You say Pentax made an adapter that screws in to the Leica mount. Where's the extension tube for then? And eh... can you evetntually name a shop or auction where one can buy this stuff? Would be cool... : )

Bryce,
thanks for this hint. I was only used to another, even more expensive rangefinder medium format camera by Fuji. This could be nice, but not now. It is too expensive for me right now (at least from what I've seen on ebay) and not really made for shooting street. In addition scanning 6x4,5 with my current setup is always horrible.

 

[Tim Gray]

The Ricoh Gr-1 is an excellent camera with a tack sharp 2.8/28mm and sells for nothing (I believe i saw one going for less than $50).

Where, where, where??? I'd love to get one of those, but I thought there were in the $300-500 range...

 

[charjohncarter]

der.chris.tian, Yes, very simple an adapter, an extension tube, and the Pentax lens. All made by Pentax (except the camera) but the lens doesn't have to be. The adapter width plus the 9.5 mm extension tube is if you add the distance from the outer ring of a Leica LTM to the film what you need to place a SLR on you rangefinder with the proper registry or length. I hope you understand, these are all ScrewMount Leica LTM and Pentax Screwmount.

 

[der.chris.tian]

Hm. I'm sorry.. still don't getting it. Maybe there's the language problem as well... : /


Is this the right order? Or, where does the extension tube comes into play?
"Camera with m39 mount : Pentax adapter : lens with Pentax K mount"


And.. if you could say something to the shop issue for this stuff..?

 

[Ash]

The lens should be M42 mount, not PK.

"Pentax Mount" can mean both m42 AND pk, very confusing.


M39 rangefinders have slightly thinner bodies than slr's, that's why you need the extension tube.

M39 Camera - M39-to-M42 adapter - M42 extension tube - M42 lens


🙂

 

[Didier]

Where, where, where??? I'd love to get one of those, but I thought there were in the $300-500 range...

At ebay, where else?...
I had the GR-1 and GR-21 on my automated searches for a while (but was more keen on the 21). Actually there's one for $99. With patience you'll find one for less.

 

[charjohncarter]

der.chris.tian,

Almost, rangefinder camera with a 39mm mount, then a Pentax 39mm to 42mm (Pentax) mount adapter. Then a Pentax SCREW MOUNT extension tube that is 9.5mm. And then the SCREW MOUNT (Pentax lens). Works great.

As to 'shopping issues' everthing is easy, EXCEPT the 39mm to 42mm adapter. You would have to go to a special photographic items vendor. But I'll put it up on my ebay list and see if I can find one for you.

Carter

 

[der.chris.tian]

Aahh.. NOW I've got it right. *g* Thanks for your patience.
Would be really really nice if you find a seller in your list. : )

 

[der.chris.tian]

Hey,

I've found an adapter with a built in extension tube. But I still have a question, though. They say it works for the Leica mount. I'm not pretty sure if I can use the older russian cameras like the kiev4 with it. Does anybody know if this is the same mount as the Leica one?

 

[Didier]

I'm not pretty sure if I can use the older russian cameras like the kiev4 with it. Does anybody know if this is the same mount as the Leica one?

No. Kiev rangefinders have a Contax mount, which is almost the same as the Nikon rangefinder mount. I've seen rather expensive coupling adapters to use Contax/Nikon lenses on M-mounts, but not the other way round.
Didier

 

[der.chris.tian]

*sigh*

why is this so difficult...

 

[sirius]

I don't think there is a camera that fits your requirements. It's economies of scale. Not many people would want a camera that does what you are looking for. So, the few that do really have to pay for it.

A Bessa L with a 28/3.5 Color-Skopar and 28mm metal brightline viewfinder might work. It appears to be in your price range.
http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtbl.htm
http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtlen.htm
http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtacc.htm

 

[der.chris.tian]

Yes, I assume this (maybe with a different lens) is a good try. I just found a Bessa L for 99 Euro (or 179Euro in black. hmm *g*). Not too expensive.

On the other hand I also just read, that the Bessa L is quite loud. Is that true? Is it maybe even as loud as a regular SLR?

 

[raid]

There used to be a basic Nikon P&S with a 28mm lens. It cost at the time about $100. Does Nikon still make such a camera?
I recommend a Canon 28mm/3.5 for quality and low cost. Then get a Bessa L. You will have a great set-up that is classic and functional.

 

[der.chris.tian]

Hm. How is the m38 canon called?

 

[mike_j]

Where, where, where??? I'd love to get one of those, but I thought there were in the $300-500 range...

In UK a GR1 generally goes for about 100UKP (say 200USD). Brilliant little camera but the lens and wind on motors are not especially quiet. Well built and extremely well laid out design.

 

[Didier]

There used to be a basic Nikon P&S with a 28mm lens. It cost at the time about $100. Does Nikon still make such a camera?
I recommend a Canon 28mm/3.5 for quality and low cost. Then get a Bessa L. You will have a great set-up that is classic and functional.

Raid,
That's the Nikon 28Ti I had proposed to Christian at the beginning of the thread. "Point&Shoot" is almost a bit disrespectful for THAT camera. It's a masterpiece from Nikon, designed as backup camera for professional photojournalists, and is mechancally and opticlly on the top. It offers so many manual features that the usuual point&shoot dude would be completely overstrained with it. It may have cost $100 at the time (I believed more), but considering inflation and time this doesn't say much. The camera has reached cult status amongst Nikonians and I haven't seen one selling below $300-400 (used of course).
Didier

 

[raid]

Didier,

I did not mean the Nikon 28Ti; I meant a cheap P&S that I once owned. The shell was made out of plastic. The Ti is a masterpiece, as you have said.

Raid,
That's the Nikon 28Ti I had proposed to Christian at the beginning of the thread. "Point&Shoot" is almost a bit disrespectful for THAT camera. It's a masterpiece from Nikon, designed as backup camera for professional photojournalists, and is mechancally and opticlly on the top. It offers so many manual features that the usuual point&shoot dude would be completely overstrained with it. It may have cost $100 at the time (I believed more), but considering inflation and time this doesn't say much. The camera has reached cult status amongst Nikonians and I haven't seen one selling below $300-400 (used of course).
Didier

 

[sirius]

Hey Raid, found this link. http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/htmls/models/htmls/compact.htm