Introducing Fuji X100S

So they use the PDAF sensor for split image :D

Is there any sample of how the system works with objects of different distances that's not close up ? Like the common case in street snapshots.
I've only found the one with chess piece and the one with X100 from Fuji's website and both are close up object.
 
bwcolor said:
I thought that with the removal of the AA filter that you didn't need to sharpen.. ?
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For reproduction you almost always will want to sharpen. This is true of a D800E or M9 or X-Pro or Phase One. None of these cameras have an AA filter. A good printer is still going to use some sharpening on files from any of them.
 
umcelinho said:
edit: and the DAMN 1m macro/normal focus limitation for AF. that's just so annoying.
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This is definitely what I've found the major shortcoming. Normal AF isn't lightning fact but it's reliable (except with moving objects). But macro isn't only slow, it's maddeningly inconsistent, then you have the occasional delay when two button presses don't engage macro mode. I'm surprised how few other people comment on this; it really hampers close-up portraits. If AF is generally faster and reliable, that will be some help, but better still would be if macro mode engages at 80cm.
 
The new manual focus implementation sure seems interesting. This is certainly a camera I want to try out.

Too bad about no news for Aperture support of the X-trans sensors, though.
 
Paul T. said:
This is definitely what I've found the major shortcoming. Normal AF isn't lightning fact but it's reliable (except with moving objects). But macro isn't only slow, it's maddeningly inconsistent, then you have the occasional delay when two button presses don't engage macro mode. I'm surprised how few other people comment on this; it really hampers close-up portraits. If AF is generally faster and reliable, that will be some help, but better still would be if macro mode engages at 80cm.
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Paul, I don't want to get your or anyone else's hopes up but I thought I read or saw somewhere that the min normal AF distance is now 50cm.

Edit: it's in Fuji's specs for the X100s.
 
Phase detection autofocus. That alone is worth the upgrade for me. I have an x100 and will be upgrading to the X-Pro, but I'm waiting for the fuji 23mm 1.4 to be released- now I also have to wait for th xpro2. Exciting times none the less!
 
If this digital split image thing were ported to an XE2 or an XP2, would it be usable with M lenses? That would make things really interesting.

Another tangential thought -- what if Ricoh put this idea in their (already marvelous) GXR M-mount, and came out with a 16MP sensor optimized for M lenses? Hmmm...
 
jsrockit said:
Man, we even have to hear about M lenses in a thread about a fixed lens camera... ;)
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thats funny, but in truth, the fact that the x100 is a fixed lens AF camera makes the stunning advance with the split screen digital focusing actually less relevant. it is much much more relevant in an interchangeable lens camera that is capable of utilizing some of the worlds great manual focus lenses. truly that is the potential 'game changer' for high priced leica m digis, the one we've all been hoping for.
tony
 
rbelyell said:
it is much much more relevant in an interchangeable lens camera that is capable of utilizing some of the worlds great manual focus lenses. truly that is the potential 'game changer' for high priced leica m digis, the one we've all been hoping for.
tony
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If you buy expensive Leica lenses, then why not buy the expensive Leica camera to go with it?

I'm sorry, but I don't feel sorry for Leica "glass" users regarding their lack of capatible bodies. Fuji needs to concentrate on their own lenses and bodies and not on support for Leica lenses.
 
Considering how quickly one can switch between EVF and OVF, if I'm taking the time to manually turn the focus ring, then using the EVF for split-image focusing is not an issue.

In very bright light, it the EVF may not perform well. So narrow DOF in light that is too bright for the EVF could be a problem for people who reject using AF.

When this technology ports to the XPro and XE bodies, the use of mechanical lenses will become even more popular.
 
Macro sharpness

Macro sharpness

Paul T. said:
This is definitely what I've found the major shortcoming. Normal AF isn't lightning fact but it's reliable (except with moving objects). But macro isn't only slow, it's maddeningly inconsistent, then you have the occasional delay when two button presses don't engage macro mode. I'm surprised how few other people comment on this; it really hampers close-up portraits. If AF is generally faster and reliable, that will be some help, but better still would be if macro mode engages at 80cm.
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Mine was'nt sharp either with macro. Then I send it for OVF repair and fuji also corrected macro sharpness (they checked whole camera) and now its really sharp.
 
I preordered. This is going to be a completely different camera in an X100 body. I use the X100 with an M8 and telephoto all the time as a pro combo.

Two huge features fuji added... 14 bit RAW data, and they found a way to correct for diffraction. The camera is apparently clear and sharp wide open to F16. Read about it on their mini promo site. Some how they did something to optimize something since the lens, sensor, and processor are all fixed in one unit. They are claiming no diffraction degradation at even F/16.

And between 12 and 14 bit...14 bit is visibly different. Too bad its not 16, but I never looked back when Canon went 14bit. The tonal changes are way smoother and colors are better overall in every situation.

Also, Auto ISO is selectable from the Fn button now! Finally!
 
PDA Question

PDA Question

Camera's like the X100S and NEX 6 use on chip PDA (probably the same sensor). Do the PDA receptor pixels also serve the dual purpose of contributing to the image and p.d., or for imaging purposes are they treated as hot pixels? If the later, will this mean that RAW conversion will take a new ground up effort, or will this be a simple porting process from other Xtran cameras?
 
What an update! Fujifilm is easily becoming the best user's camera maker. They just kept whatever worked and subtly added the like-to-haves. Maybe some can say that this is the camera that the x100 should have been, but having got mine within the first few months and using it heavily ever since, I will easily forgive them.

They made a one of a kind camera and now they have made it better. I don't see myself selling my x100 for this, but lets see when a X-Pro2 comes out.

Although, there are a couple of features in this that I wouldn't mind getting in x100 via a firmware upgrade. Mainly that auto-ISO in shooting mode and the 1:1 aspect ratio!
 
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