Huck Finn
Well-known
richard_l said:Yes, there's less than 1 cm difference in length between the Biogon and Ultron. The smallest Elmarit is only about 2 mm longer than the Biogon.
Zeiss 28/2.8 Biogon = 37.7 mm
Leica 28/2.8 Elmarit = 41.4 mm
CV 28/1.9 Ultron = 63.1 mm
richard_l
Well-known
You have to be careful about how the measurements are taken, and there are at least two different sized 28mm Elmarits, maybe more. Anyhow, my Ultron sticks out about 47 mm from the camera body. The Biogon sticks out 37.7 mm. That's a difference of 9.3 mm.
Huck Finn
Well-known
Interesting, Richard. This measurement thing can be confusing. The 63.1 mm Ultron length I posted is from the Cosina website.
Huck
Huck
Palaeoboy
Joel Matherson
"The whole Schneider/Kyocera/Contax/Yashica thing is entangling enough, just like a bad Friends episode."
LOL And the Leica/Minolta/Schneider/Panasonic/Sigma/Zeiss Japan/Zeiss Germany soapy can be viewed on a rival network!
LOL And the Leica/Minolta/Schneider/Panasonic/Sigma/Zeiss Japan/Zeiss Germany soapy can be viewed on a rival network!
jaap
Jaap
I had a 28mm GAS for my Contax G2 i bought one on a photo market in Doesburg the netherlands I had to pay 160,- euro for this baby. That was the price with a shade. 
KEH
Well-known
You definitely don't want this lens
You definitely don't want this lens
Attached is a shot from earlier this evening. R-D1, ISO 800, 1/3 stop less than f/4, exposure 1/21 s. Cleaned up and sharpened a bit with Noise Ninja, then a bit of local contrast enhancement.
This lens is curing me of my adiction to 'cheap but good' lenses. The last dozen or so London shots in my gallery were also taken with this lens.
Cheers,
Kirk
You definitely don't want this lens
Attached is a shot from earlier this evening. R-D1, ISO 800, 1/3 stop less than f/4, exposure 1/21 s. Cleaned up and sharpened a bit with Noise Ninja, then a bit of local contrast enhancement.
This lens is curing me of my adiction to 'cheap but good' lenses. The last dozen or so London shots in my gallery were also taken with this lens.
Cheers,
Kirk
SolaresLarrave
My M5s need red dots!
Peter...
Hah!
Dream on! 
Ok... You got the best deal. True. I got an Elmarit that needed repair. So, Richard... forget about new glass. The 28mm focal length will give you a lot of dead space. At least, that's my problem...
Let's hope this helps...
Hah!
Ok... You got the best deal. True. I got an Elmarit that needed repair. So, Richard... forget about new glass. The 28mm focal length will give you a lot of dead space. At least, that's my problem...
Let's hope this helps...
Fantastic deal, jaap! I paid somewhat more at KEH for mine... but this is a lovely lens.jaap said:I had a 28mm GAS for my Contax G2 i bought one on a photo market in Doesburg the netherlands I had to pay 160,- euro for this baby. That was the price with a shade.![]()
Francisco, you just have a bit of a challenge to work on, there!SolaresLarrave said:The 28mm focal length will give you a lot of dead space. At least, that's my problem...
jaap
Jaap
Nice shot Douge it represents in a good way the extreme edge to edge sharpnes this G-Biogon gives. Even at f 2.8!
aizan
Veteran
dead space with a 28? i find it hard to fit everything in. but if 28 is too much, that's when the 50 comes in. 
jaap
Jaap
aizan said:dead space with a 28? i find it hard to fit everything in. but if 28 is too much, that's when the 50 comes in.![]()
Or a 35mm will do the job. It's really a nice lensfor general applications
aizan
Veteran
yup. my next lens will be 35mm.
peter_n
Veteran
I haven't noticed dead space particularly... Maybe its just that particular lens Francisco and you're being punished for not picking up the Hexanon! 
I'm finding that 28 and 50 are a great two lens combination.
I'm finding that 28 and 50 are a great two lens combination.
SolaresLarrave
My M5s need red dots!
You guys are too nice... I'm trying to discourage Richard here.
About the dead space... Yep! It's a challenge I'm trying to meet. It simply happens that I'm too used to the 35mm width, and the 28mm was a bit too wide for me in the beginning. Now... I think I'm getting used to it.
But then, again, Richard, you'll get lots of dead space with a 28mm!
About the dead space... Yep! It's a challenge I'm trying to meet. It simply happens that I'm too used to the 35mm width, and the 28mm was a bit too wide for me in the beginning. Now... I think I'm getting used to it.
But then, again, Richard, you'll get lots of dead space with a 28mm!
tajart
ancien
i used to think 28 was the perfect focal length- why go wider i thought? then i went to 21 and found that especially nice. and now the 15/4.5 is intriguing. think of the 28 as near normal field of view, 35 as normal, and 50 as nearing telephoto...guess its all relative.
oh yes, think 28/3.5 for small and compact and tack sharp, and it fits on thread mount and adapters to bayonet...28/3.5
oh yes, think 28/3.5 for small and compact and tack sharp, and it fits on thread mount and adapters to bayonet...28/3.5
richard_l
Well-known
I really appreciate your "help," but somehow it ain't working.SolaresLarrave said:You guys are too nice... I'm trying to discourage Richard here..........But then, again, Richard, you'll get lots of dead space with a 28mm!![]()
N
NoTx
Guest
Zeiss and 28mm... is there a better reason to buy? No.
richard_l
Well-known
N
NoTx
Guest
richard_l said:
Oh... not helping... I have and love both the 28/2.8 and 21/2.8 Zeiss Contax G lenses. They are awesome. If I ever get the ZI, they will be coming along as well. But in the end, if you need an excuse not to buy... ask you wife: "Hey love, do you mind if I spend a few car payments on a lens?" Works, but is no fun.
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