Is the M240/M246 a mature enough technology to be ...

[Manuel Patino]

Forget the CV 15f4.5 and the 25f4 color snapshot. They work very well for B&W, but in color, the magenta fringes are a no-go.... Other focal lengths (35mm and up) of various lenses seem to work quite well (as well as the quality of the lens allows).

 

[Sparrow]

Right, I've digested that thanks everybody ... now a couple of supplementary questions ...

Is anybody using the EVF much? ... and are 'hot-shoe' connections a standard fitting or must one buy the Leica version?

Secondly, how cluttered is the VF when compared to the M2?

 

[Keith]

Right, I've digested that thanks everybody ... now a couple of supplementary questions ...

Is anybody using the EVF much? ... and are 'hot-shoe' connections a standard fitting or must one buy the Leica version?

Secondly, how cluttered is the VF when compared to the M2?

I use the EVF constantly. I find with my C Sonnar it's the only way to guarantee accurate focus when it matters.

One interesting thing about using an adapter and my OM lenses on the camera is the way digital shows a lens's weakness. My 85 f2 which seemed fine with film looks a bit average when used on the 240 .... very soft at f2.

 

[Sparrow]

Is yours the Leica one Keith? ...

I'm thinking of a home for the Nikon f2.5/105 too at some point ... using that off a tripod has become a real challenge now, I'm struggling to get some strength back in my arms and shoulders, they're improving but its so slow work

 

[Keith]

Is yours the Leica one Keith? ...

I'm thinking of a home for the Nikon f2.5/105 too at some point ... using that off a tripod has become a real challenge now, I'm struggling to get some strength back in my arms and shoulders, they're improving but its so slow work

No ... the Olympus one. Bought it off eBay used for $120.00 .... the price Leica want for one is a joke .... especially considering it's the same EVF with their logo on it! 😀

 

[Sparrow]

... do they all have a common fitting? ... I've seen a panasonic one somewhere around the house

 

[jaapv]

No, they are not interchangeable with Panasonic, nor with other Olympus ones, despite the same interface. Only EVF2 will work.

 

[Sparrow]

... so Keith's isn't working properly then?

 

[Godfrey]

Right, I've digested that thanks everybody ... now a couple of supplementary questions ...

Is anybody using the EVF much? ... and are 'hot-shoe' connections a standard fitting or must one buy the Leica version?

Secondly, how cluttered is the VF when compared to the M2?

I use the EVF quite a lot too. It's a seamless integration for my purposes.

The Leica EVF-2 and Olympus VF-2 are the same unit, just a different logo on the front.

Olympus also sells the VF-3 and VF-4 ... These are not compatible despite having the same connection. Other EVF units for Panasonic, Ricoh, etc are not compatible, and don't have the same connection.

G

 

[Sparrow]

... got it, thanks

 

[jaapv]

... so Keith's isn't working properly then?

Sorry,It seems I was obscure... both the Leica (slightly different shape) and Olympus EVF2 work. The Olympus EVF1 and EVF4 etc. do not work.

 

[Johann Espiritu]

No problems with the Dual-Hexanon 21-35 at 21mm, but it needed an adjustment in the shims to make it focus right:

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Tokyo by Johann Espiritu, on Flickr

 

[Sparrow]

Nice, and not a lens one sees every day

... has anybody used a Summitar on the M240?

Will it collapse without causing damage, and does the sensor show up too many of its faults?

 

[rodt16s]

One interesting thing about using an adapter and my OM lenses on the camera is the way digital shows a lens's weakness. My 85 f2 which seemed fine with film looks a bit average when used on the 240 .... very soft at f2.

Keith, your comment rang a bell... the OM sales folder shows the softness as a feature

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I have the 85/2 was never that impressed

Interestingly the 100/2 (fav) talks Bokeh, before Bokeh became trendy

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Rod

 

[Manuel Patino]

Right, I've digested that thanks everybody ... now a couple of supplementary questions ...

Is anybody using the EVF much? ... and are 'hot-shoe' connections a standard fitting or must one buy the Leica version?

Secondly, how cluttered is the VF when compared to the M2?

EVF is fine.The olympus one works great and is exactly the same as the Leica branded one... It does "clutter" the camera a little...
BTW, here is a shot with the CV15f4.5 it's good in B&W but the magenta fringes on the sides are unacceptable for color shots

 

[Godfrey]

Nice, and not a lens one sees every day

... has anybody used a Summitar on the M240?

Will it collapse without causing damage, and does the sensor show up too many of its faults?

I haven't used one although I'm sure that others have. Most people using older lenses enjoy them on the digital bodies for their 'faults' and character (that's why I use a 1960 Hektor 135/4.5 and a Summilux 35 v2, amongst other older lenses 🙂.

Regards using collapsible lenses, Leica warns NOT to collapse any but the APO 90mm f/4 Macro. I understand that one of the Voigtländer 50s is also safe, but I'm not sure which one.

The reason is that there's not as much room in the interior of the digital Ms as there is in the film Ms: the sensor stack is thicker and the shutter is closer to the lens mount by some distance. With collapsible lenses, it's best to put a semi-rigid sleeve around the collapsible section so you don't accidentally push the lens in and destroy the shutter and/or sensor.

G

 

[CameraQuest]

EVF is fine.The olympus one works great and is exactly the same as the Leica branded one... It does "clutter" the camera a little...
BTW, here is a shot with the CV15f4.5 it's good in B&W but the magenta fringes on the sides are unacceptable for color shots

Not on the Version III - no color fringing.

Stephen

 

[Manuel Patino]

Not on the Version III - no color fringing.

Stephen

I'm tempted to rent one and try it with my M240 before I buy it. I almost pulled the trigger on one today 😉

 

[jaapv]

I haven't used one although I'm sure that others have. Most people using older lenses enjoy them on the digital bodies for their 'faults' and character (that's why I use a 1960 Hektor 135/4.5 and a Summilux 35 v2, amongst other older lenses 🙂.

Regards using collapsible lenses, Leica warns NOT to collapse any but the APO 90mm f/4 Macro. I understand that one of the Voigtländer 50s is also safe, but I'm not sure which one.

The reason is that there's not as much room in the interior of the digital Ms as there is in the film Ms: the sensor stack is thicker and the shutter is closer to the lens mount by some distance. With collapsible lenses, it's best to put a semi-rigid sleeve around the collapsible section so you don't accidentally push the lens in and destroy the shutter and/or sensor.

G

Incorrect. (but it was written this way in older manuals) Most lenses can be collapsed without problem, but collapsible lenses should be mounted extended. This is the latest advice by Leica. I use an Elmar-M all the time. A lens you should not collapse all the way is the old 9 cm 4.0 collapsible.

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic...qs-questions-with-answers/page-4#entry2464102

 

[Doug]

...Regards using collapsible lenses... I understand that one of the Voigtländer 50s is also safe, but I'm not sure which one. ...

That would be the 50mm f/2.0 Heliar Classic. When collapsed, the rear of the lens projects inward from the mounting flange by about 1mm. No problem.

The 2009 special nickel finish version does not collapse, also no problem. 🙂

The 50mm f/3.5 Heliar's rear surface, when collapsed, projects inward from the screw-adapter's mounting flange by about 6mm. Doubt that this is a problem.

M240 with 50mm f/3.5 Heliar: