proenca
Proenca
hello there ,
sorry for the existencial problems but in the market for a camera.. having used a M7 and it was an absolute joy, i only found two things : the cocking of the shutter wasnt very smooth, was very robotic and the shutter noise, which some people praised to be virtually silent wasnt that silent. yes was quiet, but not virtually. if i was in a room without much noise and if i took the picture, the shutter can be heard.
now, the MP drama.
MP seems a logical buy or step for me : one day i will problably go to digital again and MP seems the absolute opposite of digital therefore its best compliment : film , mechanical, non battery dependant, roboust .. well, all the qualities that digital dont have and make sense to have one camera like that.
but im afraid to buy it.
no AE ? now thats a first since i joined photography. i rarely used my M7 in manual mode, just because I enjoyed the AE very much. point, focus, check exposure, click. there. simple, fast. with MP you have to set the speed first, fiddle with apperture to get an accurate exposure , focus and click. plus the speed wheel is not so big so i have to take my shooting positino and put the camera to waist level ( or at least stop focusing ) to reset the speed.
then theres the issue of aperture : i love wide open apertures. the bokeh effect. for example, when I had the M7, I select the aperture and then it calculates the speed, meaning that if I wanted that special bokeh fromt hat lens, would be there, fast. with the MP i reckon that would be more difficult. to shoot wide open, no to fiddle with the lens to fine tune exposure means take the camera off the eye, check exposure, take camera off the eye, rotate dial, check exposure, take camera off the eye, check exposure, click. sounds daunting 🙂 because if you compensate with the aperture, there goes the smooth bokeh..
so i wonder, is the MP a camera for me ? why not a M6 classic ? or even M6 TTL ? sure they have batteries and the MP is newer and have a better viewfinder, but its worth almost the double ?
one thing always puzzled me...
the intervals of the MP ( or other full time manual camera )... with the M7 if a scene is , lets say I have 400 ISO film loaded and its a dark scene, im using a 1.4 aperture and it says 1/90 ... well with the M7 I just click and he assumes 1/90.. with a MP I have 1/60 or 1/125 as options.. and this is considering that i will be using the lens wide open at 1.4, so i cant change aperture.. so I will have to bracket ( 2 exposures instead of one ) but even still, one will be a bit underexposed and the other a bit overexposed.. neither will be spot on... im missing something here?
on a last note, somethings appeal me very much in the MP : although its suposedly the bigger brother ( or younger, you ppl chose >🙂 ) of the M7, it seems ( from pictures, never hold one ) with a different finish, different cranftmanship.. the non flashy red badge looks i love it, very clean, crisp, the dozens of ex/M7 users that now have a MP and say the cocking is so much smoother and the shutter quieter... the depreciation free choice( well that is assuming that a MP, or at least the one im seeing is roughly 10/15% more than a M7, therefore if Im using the MP for a couple of months and decide not to like it, I trade it in for a M7, and I wont have to pay much or anything, which would be equivalent for a week or so rental of a MP, so basically, I wont loose money. well , much 🙂 ) and the investment idea.. as I said in the beggining, this camera makes all the sense in the work to keep as a backup one day, when i move to digital, the MP makes sense as a bateryless roubust camera that would work when the digital fails..
so im basicaly :bang::bang::bang: here trying to figure what to do. please post your opinions, i would like to hear from MP users, from M7 users that have/had a MP, from users that did not buy a MP because they did not like or trade one and from all users that have anything to say 🙄
cheers
sorry for the existencial problems but in the market for a camera.. having used a M7 and it was an absolute joy, i only found two things : the cocking of the shutter wasnt very smooth, was very robotic and the shutter noise, which some people praised to be virtually silent wasnt that silent. yes was quiet, but not virtually. if i was in a room without much noise and if i took the picture, the shutter can be heard.
now, the MP drama.
MP seems a logical buy or step for me : one day i will problably go to digital again and MP seems the absolute opposite of digital therefore its best compliment : film , mechanical, non battery dependant, roboust .. well, all the qualities that digital dont have and make sense to have one camera like that.
but im afraid to buy it.
no AE ? now thats a first since i joined photography. i rarely used my M7 in manual mode, just because I enjoyed the AE very much. point, focus, check exposure, click. there. simple, fast. with MP you have to set the speed first, fiddle with apperture to get an accurate exposure , focus and click. plus the speed wheel is not so big so i have to take my shooting positino and put the camera to waist level ( or at least stop focusing ) to reset the speed.
then theres the issue of aperture : i love wide open apertures. the bokeh effect. for example, when I had the M7, I select the aperture and then it calculates the speed, meaning that if I wanted that special bokeh fromt hat lens, would be there, fast. with the MP i reckon that would be more difficult. to shoot wide open, no to fiddle with the lens to fine tune exposure means take the camera off the eye, check exposure, take camera off the eye, rotate dial, check exposure, take camera off the eye, check exposure, click. sounds daunting 🙂 because if you compensate with the aperture, there goes the smooth bokeh..
so i wonder, is the MP a camera for me ? why not a M6 classic ? or even M6 TTL ? sure they have batteries and the MP is newer and have a better viewfinder, but its worth almost the double ?
one thing always puzzled me...
the intervals of the MP ( or other full time manual camera )... with the M7 if a scene is , lets say I have 400 ISO film loaded and its a dark scene, im using a 1.4 aperture and it says 1/90 ... well with the M7 I just click and he assumes 1/90.. with a MP I have 1/60 or 1/125 as options.. and this is considering that i will be using the lens wide open at 1.4, so i cant change aperture.. so I will have to bracket ( 2 exposures instead of one ) but even still, one will be a bit underexposed and the other a bit overexposed.. neither will be spot on... im missing something here?
on a last note, somethings appeal me very much in the MP : although its suposedly the bigger brother ( or younger, you ppl chose >🙂 ) of the M7, it seems ( from pictures, never hold one ) with a different finish, different cranftmanship.. the non flashy red badge looks i love it, very clean, crisp, the dozens of ex/M7 users that now have a MP and say the cocking is so much smoother and the shutter quieter... the depreciation free choice( well that is assuming that a MP, or at least the one im seeing is roughly 10/15% more than a M7, therefore if Im using the MP for a couple of months and decide not to like it, I trade it in for a M7, and I wont have to pay much or anything, which would be equivalent for a week or so rental of a MP, so basically, I wont loose money. well , much 🙂 ) and the investment idea.. as I said in the beggining, this camera makes all the sense in the work to keep as a backup one day, when i move to digital, the MP makes sense as a bateryless roubust camera that would work when the digital fails..
so im basicaly :bang::bang::bang: here trying to figure what to do. please post your opinions, i would like to hear from MP users, from M7 users that have/had a MP, from users that did not buy a MP because they did not like or trade one and from all users that have anything to say 🙄
cheers
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