Leica LTM is this black leica III a fake

Leica M39 screw mount bodies/lenses
lxmike said:
obviously l will post some pics on arrival after the camera has had a light wipe down with an appropriate cloth
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Use a microfiber cloth with some petrol. Use on difficult places an old fashioned toothbrush. When the camera is clean and dry, rub it in with some ball bearing grease, also the vulcanite. Then rub it clean again with a microfiber cloth.


Erik.
 
Thinking about it I can't see any profit to faking anything other than a model II, there's too much to add or make to fake a standard or III and over; things like the slow speeds, strap lugs and dioptre.

The FED or Zorki to a Leica II can be done quickly and usually reasonably well to fool someone, at first glance, who isn't familiar with the breeds.

Having said that a lot try and pass off FED or Zorki 2s, 3s, 4s and so on and get away with it. And then there's those weird ones with all the imaginative limited or specials; covered in pretty little pictures.

It's a great pity they don't just take FED and Zorki 1s and service them properly and do them in a black finish...

Regards, David
 
Dralowid said:
Looks like the top has been retouched or repainted. Hope it will respond to cleaning.

Regarding fakes, apart from exotic things like the 250 I have never seen a faked 'ordinary' III...have you?
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your right l have not seen a fake III, my paranoia was on overload when l first posted this thread:D
 
Erik van Straten said:
Use a microfiber cloth with some petrol. Use on difficult places an old fashioned toothbrush. When the camera is clean and dry, rub it in with some ball bearing grease, also the vulcanite. Then rub it clean again with a microfiber cloth.


Erik.
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great advice thanks:)
 
Nice one Mike,

Unfortunately no way to blacken the vulcanite again, short of painting or replacing it :(

I have GAS for a black III or IIIa now :( ;)
 
Mr_Flibble said:
I have GAS for a black III or IIIa now :( ;)
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Be very wary about black IIIa s. There used to be a long running argument about their existence. It was said that a batch of serial numbers were put aside for them but never used. I would assume that any black IIIa claiming to be original is indeed some sort of 're creation' of something that probably never existed.

Happy to be proved wrong.

I have a black IIIa. It is the smoothest and by far the quietest of all my ltm cameras. It is a pre war conversion of something much older.

IMG_1459 by dralowid, on Flickr
 
Mr_Flibble said:
Unfortunately no way to blacken the vulcanite again, short of painting or replacing it :(

:( ;)
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This is not true. When you keep your camera for some time in a relative dark place, the vulcanite becomes darker.

Typical for the Leica III is the brownish tone of the vulcanite. When the camera has been for some time on a sunny place, the vulcanite will become light brown. Put it in a dark place and it will become dark again. Same is true for the other Leicas of this era, but not as obvious.

Erik.


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There is something rather special about the beauty of a black barnack, is there a thread is not there should be dedicated to black screwthread leicas
 
Erik van Straten said:
This is not true. When you keep your camera for some time in a relative dark place, the vulcanite becomes darker.

Typical for the Leica III is the brownish tone of the vulcanite. When the camera has been for some time on a sunny place, the vulcanite will become light brown. Put it in a dark place and it will become dark again. Same is true for the other Leicas of this era, but not as obvious.

Erik.


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These are things known only by those in the innermost Leica circles!
 
Please, stop it guys. I've had GAS for a black Barnack for quite a while now, notwithstanding my very nice chrome IIIc and IIIf. I really don't need another Barnack!
 
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