tightsqueez
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Issues with Leica, the company
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Fred Krughoff
Odd thread!
Is there fear among Leica aficionados, that they will think they are buying one camera, and get home, only to find it is the wrong one? 😱
Do a little research, look at the end of the box, and check your receipt when leaving the store.
Is there fear among Leica aficionados, that they will think they are buying one camera, and get home, only to find it is the wrong one? 😱
Do a little research, look at the end of the box, and check your receipt when leaving the store.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
MP : 1950s limited edition film model or current high end film model with meter.
M-P : current top of the line digital model of the typ 240 family.
And your point was... You can't remember?
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Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
Let see, Fairlaine, Galaxie, Falcon, Fusion, Focus, Impala, Bel Air, Chevelle, Chevette, Corvette, On and On and On..... It's the way of marketing. We're supposed to want the newest, longest, lowest, most Chrome, bigger and better than our neighbor. The terrible thing is that it works.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
X says it's an APS-C fixed lens model.
Typ 246 says it's an M with the latest body features and monochrom sensor.
Why is this so difficult?
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airfrogusmc
Veteran
In my opinion anyone buying Leica is probably going to know the difference. Usually Leica is not an impulse buy to most but a thought out, researched decision. The price point would make that so for most.
jarski
Veteran
to me "Typ" plus some serial number is so difficult. Leica had perfectly working naming convention for their M cameras. until someone came up with idea to copy Mercedes and BMW and change everything after 50+ years of tradition.
Jan Pedersen
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In my opinion anyone buying Leica is probably going to know the difference. Usually Leica is not an impulse buy to most but a thought out, researched decision. The price point would make that so for most.+1
There are far more important issues to be concerned about in 2015 than name convention of a camera 😉
rfaspen
[insert pithy phrase here]
I can manage the names just fine, but I do wish it was M8, M9, M10, M11, M12,... If nothing else, its quicker off the tongue.
I also don't mind the variant of the above: M8u, M8.2, ... That seemed a nice way to indicate small differences from the base model. Sure, Typ 267 or some such nomenclature can do that as well, but it takes longer for me to say, and some day there will be an awful lot of Typ's (assuming Leica stays with us for a long time, as I hope).
In the meantime, as long as my Leica works as intended/expected and I can keep makin pictures....:angel:
I also don't mind the variant of the above: M8u, M8.2, ... That seemed a nice way to indicate small differences from the base model. Sure, Typ 267 or some such nomenclature can do that as well, but it takes longer for me to say, and some day there will be an awful lot of Typ's (assuming Leica stays with us for a long time, as I hope).
In the meantime, as long as my Leica works as intended/expected and I can keep makin pictures....:angel:
Godfrey
somewhat colored
DougFord
on the good foot
'The 6 degrees of Lenny K' is the key that unlocks all this mess...probably.
porktaco
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lol a company whose entire zeitgeist is about simplicity and intuitivity suddenly coming up with a nomenclature people actually have to think for more than a nanosecond about. M10, M11, M743... those would all have been great. seriously, just stop adding value.
jsrockit
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The Leica nerd will always be on top of each model... and its specs. However, I can see how this would be tricky if you only researched which camera to buy every 5 years or so when you need a new camera. That said, it is no different than buying a computer in that respect.
giellaleafapmu
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I think it is now much clearer then when you had a UXOOR, a UZEOM and a UOOYW, just to stay in Visoflex nomenclature...
GLF
GLF
V-12
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It isn't difficult for me, but your lack of empathy surely suggests you have no idea how to sell a camera on a broader scale other than knowing the specifications of it already.
I've been using Leica's for 40 years, I know the progression of each model even if I'm not interested in each model. But explaining where each of the new models comes in the hierarchy becomes a fruitless cause because there is no hook to hang the information off, 'did he say I need and X, or was it a T?'
I want Leica to succeed, so I'm not happy that friends without any help from myself can't simply work out what they want in the range without nomenclature overload. It's time to forget what you know about cameras and put yourself in a new customers shoes.
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V-12
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Yes, you want to talk about what you know rather than what potential customers don't understand.
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Godfrey
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I'm not interested in selling cameras: I'm not a camera salesperson. I leave selling cameras to camera sales personnel. I also leave managing the information about a manufacturers' products to the manufacturer. I don't care what their potential customers don't understand.
I'm a writer and a photographer, as I said somewhere earlier this thread.
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fireblade
Vincenzo.
I'm waiting for the Leica Type 666, it's coming.
Ozzy Osbourne has been signed up for the face of Leica.
Ozzy Osbourne has been signed up for the face of Leica.
Jan Pedersen
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It is obvious that some of the posters in this thread will use any opertunity to bash Leica for whatever reason, not a problem for me but considering how few M models they have introduced since 1954 it is not that complicated.
A new camera owner could care less about the first 7 or so models, they are no longer made so there's not that many really to consider.
Try to find some kind of logic in the Nikon line of models, that is some work and that was said by someone using Nikon cameras for more than 40 years.
A new camera owner could care less about the first 7 or so models, they are no longer made so there's not that many really to consider.
Try to find some kind of logic in the Nikon line of models, that is some work and that was said by someone using Nikon cameras for more than 40 years.
That is not my motivation at all.
As a long time Leica owner and enthusiast, I expect, want, and demand the best from Leica in all things Leica.
The problem for me is Leica's current practice of intentional branding by confusion while at the same time abandoning Leica's traditional naming procedures does not live up to Leica's best standards - or anywhere near it in my opinion.
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