bmattock
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FrozenInTime
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For normal 28mm....90mm lenses : direct OVF with projected lines as per Leica/Zeiss/Bessa (or EVF option) then EVF only for exotic focal lengths.
gdi
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LOL! Or vice versa!
ZeissFan
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It might well be a digital Pen, but I don't know if you can say it will be a digital Pen based on the company's celebration of its film half frames.
Even so, it should be interesting to see the kind of camera they create.
I really hope that it has a viewfinder. I still thinking holding your camera at arm's length is moronic.
Even so, it should be interesting to see the kind of camera they create.
I really hope that it has a viewfinder. I still thinking holding your camera at arm's length is moronic.
gavinlg
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Sigma DP1/DP2 sensor size: 20.7mm x 13.8mm
Olympus Four Thirds sensor size: 18mm × 13.5mm
Pentax/Samsung APS-c sensor size: 23.4mm x 15.6mm
OMG the sigma DP2 sensor is SOOOO much bigger than the 4/3rds one, a whole 2.7mm in length (due to the 3:2 ratio instead of 4/3rds 4:3 ratio) and a whopping .3mm in width.
An Olympus E-3 with it's 2 years old 4/3rds panasonic sensor would spank a sigma DP2 in low light. The foveon sensor can be woeful at high ISO - color splodges, casts and massive undersaturation.
From my E-3, iso 1250 + pushed almost a stop (iso 2000ish equiv) in post:
Now thats a 2 year old sensor from Olympus/panasonic, and the new M4/3rds or Digital Pen will have a new and improved version of it.
Why exactly do you think it wouldn't compete with the sigma or the Samsung (had to laugh at that one) in image quality? My Olympus E-systems DSLRs compete with my full frame Canon 5d, and in some areas surpass it.
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gavinlg
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You think they're going to incorporate fixed focal length projected lines into the VF of a modern compact digital camera aimed at people who want DSLR quality in a smaller/easier to use package for under $1000? I understand why you want it - so do I, but I fear there is no chance of it happening.
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squirrel$$$bandit
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You know Colin, if you are looking seriously at system DSLR's, and if you like compactness, old glass, and affordable new lenses, you should really look into Pentax.
As for the new m4/3, I'm delighted they've chosen to connect it to the Pen line. An optical VF would be terrific, or an improved EVF, and classic styling.
gavinlg
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The lenses are amazing. 14-35mm f2 + 35-100mm f2 are just phenominal.
FrozenInTime
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Projected frame lines from a LCD would allow zoom and parallax correction.
With the potential of two models in the pipe line:
one is going to be disappointingly basic - probably only rear LCD (<E-620/G1 price bracket ?) ; the second has the potential to be very exciting ( E-30/GH1 price bracket ?)
Bassism
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For those wondering what the connection between the PEN shorts and the new m4/3rds camera, if you check the URL, it's listed under dslr. I think it's a safe bet that a new dslr would not be inspired by the PEN, which makes it seem to me likely that they're referring to the m4/3rds camera. It also seems to me promising that it is listed under dslr rather than point/shoot.
I'm excited to see what they come out with. In a market where every camera is essentially the same as every other camera and even new ground breaking designs are made to look like every other camera (see G1), a little bit of looking back might be a good breath of fresh air.
As long as Olympus are bold enough, and I feel like they probably are, at least moreso than Panasonic who are really lucky to be making cameras in the first place, I think this camera could start some real innovation in a stagnant market.
I'm excited to see what they come out with. In a market where every camera is essentially the same as every other camera and even new ground breaking designs are made to look like every other camera (see G1), a little bit of looking back might be a good breath of fresh air.
As long as Olympus are bold enough, and I feel like they probably are, at least moreso than Panasonic who are really lucky to be making cameras in the first place, I think this camera could start some real innovation in a stagnant market.
antiquark
Derek Ross
Will the sensor be in portrait orientation (vertical) like the original pens?
Leigh Youdale
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I wouldn't think so. The 4/3rds sensor will fit within the dimensions of the half frame size but with conventional orientation. As someone pointed out, it's about 1/4 frame size.
I don't think the market would accept the portrait orientation.
It appears the teaser campaign is working very nicely for Oly.
.ken
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Haven't you heard? The 4/3rds was dead when it launched. And Olympus doesn't even really exist.
aizan
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what are they going to call it? "olympus pen d" is already taken.
scho
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I'm betting on Olympus Pen mFT
FrankS
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I wonder if this new Olympus Pen will have Image Stabilization?
JoeV
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And the 110 film format is 17mm x 13mm, with one sprocket hole, just to set the record straight. So 4/3 and m4/3 is very close to 110 format in size.
~Joe
High priced garbage? That's one heck of a brainwashing campaign, maybe Leica should try it.
nzeeman
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High priced garbage? That's one heck of a brainwashing campaign, maybe Leica should try it.
hahaha - you are right about that - but i think they already did they and made success.
i am sorry about making off topic post like this before - but i had to answer to ignorance...
to get back on topic - i think it will be great if olympus really make that digital pen - i always loved their design style - compact and yet look so durable... im not digital kind of guy - but i enjoy to see that some companies have courage to mae something that is not so mainstream.