It's official, it is goin to be a digital Pen

The color rumors over on www.43rumors.com seem to confirm that there will be two models - each has a silver top section, but then either black or beige below. But who knows.

I'm also waiting to buy either an lx3 (or dlux 4) to see what the deal is with this...
 
Avotius said:
if it doesnt I wont even bother, with today's technology the only reason not to have IS is laziness or stubbornness. Cough cough Canon and Nikon.
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That's because Canon 5dIS or Nikon D300is doesn't sounds as good as Olympus PENIS
 
The real question is which PEN? For me any thing with a hump and not having the smooth lines of the PEN F will be DOA. Real analog style controls would be nice, lose the menus.
 
Something along these lines with an EVF instead of the RF might be nice.
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GH1 on hold...

GH1 on hold...

majid said:
Except the Pen was a half-frame camera. Four-thirds (and M4/3) is really quarter-frame, i.e. 110 film equivalent, with all the professional quality we've come to expect from 110 film...

It's doubtful it can compete with the Sigma DP2 or the future Samsung APS-C compact on image quality, specially in low-light.
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I'm really excited about this camera and have put my GH1 purchase on hold until more details surface. Interesting to see Oly time this just as the GH1 gets released.

Majid - In a post a few weeks ago you seemed quite upbeat about the Oly (pasted below). Wondering why you see things different now?

majid said:
I would suggest you wait another month for the reviews of the DP2 to come out, and also Olympus to annonce its new compact micro four thirds body on June 15.
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Avotius said:
if it doesnt I wont even bother, with today's technology the only reason not to have IS is laziness or stubbornness. Cough cough Canon and Nikon.
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Another reason i like Pentax. They have a lot of respect for users of legacy lenses, whereas I feel as though Nikon and especially canon, though they make superb products, are eager to get you to pay more money for in-lens stabilization, rather than letting you buy the stabilization once and use it for every lens. And lo and behold, Pentax's investment in in-body stabilization is resulting in creative adjustments (like in-camera image leveling) using the moving sensor they designed for IS--stuff that the major manufacturers don't, and in fact can't, have.

It would be a shame not to put IS into this new Oly! But either way, i think my only camera purchase this year will be the K-7.
 
mabelsound said:
Another reason i like Pentax. They have a lot of respect for users of legacy lenses, whereas I feel as though Nikon and especially canon, though they make superb products, are eager to get you to pay more money for in-lens stabilization, rather than letting you buy the stabilization once and use it for every lens.
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There are two major advantages of in-lens stabilization over in-camera stabilization. Both Nikon and Canon know this.

Firstly, in-lens stabilization gives you an approximately two stop advantage over in-camera stabilization.

Secondly, you can confirm the effect of the stabilization control through the optical finder.
 
jonmanjiro said:
There are two major advantages of in-lens stabilization over in-camera stabilization. Both Nikon and Canon know this.

Firstly, in-lens stabilization gives you an approximately two stop advantage over in-camera stabilization.

Secondly, you can confirm the effect of the stabilization control through the optical finder.
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Well, the second is certainly true, but not having that option is really of no concern to me. I understand why some people would be bothered by it, though.

But the first is really dependent upon the specific technology, which is subject to improvement and innovation. Anyway, Pentax's current in body IS is good enough for me.
 
DanOnRoute66 said:
I thought you were talking about something new. This was announced months ago.
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It hadn't come out yet, it was announced a year ago by olympus. But I don't see how something that hasn't come out yet can be old news.

I'm sensing a lot of strange negativity towards this camera on this forum, I really thought it would be the opposite. So far Olympus is the ONLY company that's given notice or hinted at the development of a small, light, interchangeable lens camera with a DSLR sized sensor, which is what I thought everyone wanted?
You can't exactly just immediately disregard it or try to flame it - it isn't even out yet!

This camera has had at least a years worth of anticipation since announced. There will be nothing else like it on the market when it comes.
Even if it doesn't have IS (which it will - olympus has said so), doesn't have an optical VF (highly doubt it will), doesn't have an apple interface, doesn't come in black, doesn't have a little flower pot where you can stick your favorite flowers so everytime you lift it to you face you can smell daisies I'll still be buying it.
Why?
Because at the moment (and when it arrives very soon) there will be nothing like it. The Canon G10 has a sensor that is near microscopic in comparison, the Panasonic LX3 and Ricoh GRD/gx100 are just as bad, the sigma DP1/DP2 has a weird foveon sensor and underdeveloped interface/AF that I don't want to have to rely on for work, not to mention NONE of the above have interchangeable lenses.

Details details, the concept of the camera remains - a big sensor and interchangeable lenses in a compact camera. If the first one doesn't meet everyones exacting requirements chances are down the line there will be one that comes pretty close. Its the concept - the baselines on which the camera is developed that is so exciting.
 
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if the cover plates are chrome, it must be the body covering that's black or beige. that makes more sense to me.
 
mabelsound said:
Another reason i like Pentax. They have a lot of respect for users of legacy lenses, whereas I feel as though Nikon and especially canon, though they make superb products, are eager to get you to pay more money for in-lens stabilization, rather than letting you buy the stabilization once and use it for every lens.
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Hm, I like in lens stabilisation with an optical viewfinder. IMHO framing is not easy with a 300/2.8 when the viewfinder is bouncing all around, even on a monopod which is very useful with such a heavy lens, IS or not.

For short lenses, say up to 85 or 135mm, I never felt the need for stabilisation.
 
4/3rd sensor size virtually identical to 110 and 1/2 frame.

4/3rd sensor size virtually identical to 110 and 1/2 frame.

majid said:
Except the Pen was a half-frame camera. Four-thirds (and M4/3) is really quarter-frame, i.e. 110 film equivalent, with all the professional quality we've come to expect from 110 film...

It's doubtful it can compete with the Sigma DP2 or the future Samsung APS-C compact on image quality, specially in low-light.
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It will likely kick the Sigma DP2 butt. It will have the same sensor and technical specs as the Panasonic counterpart... The G1. I expect it will also hold it's own against the Sigma APC. The Panasonic G1 is certainly surpassing the DP2 and will do well against the Samsung.

To reiterate, the size of the 4/3 and micro 4/3rd sensors are the same size for both Oly and Panasonic, and within a millimeter one way or the other of half frame and 110 film.

The new Oly will NOT be just another small sensor camera.
 
Thank You Gavin!!!

Thank You Gavin!!!

fdigital said:
It hadn't come out yet, it was announced a year ago by olympus. But I don't see how something that hasn't come out yet can be old news.

I'm sensing a lot of strange negativity towards this camera on this forum, I really thought it would be the opposite. So far Olympus is the ONLY company that's given notice or hinted at the development of a small, light, interchangeable lens camera with a DSLR sized sensor, which is what I thought everyone wanted?
You can't exactly just immediately disregard it or try to flame it - it isn't even out yet!

This camera has had at least a years worth of anticipation since announced. There will be nothing else like it on the market when it comes.
Even if it doesn't have IS (which it will - olympus has said so), doesn't have an optical VF (highly doubt it will), doesn't have an apple interface, doesn't come in black, doesn't have a little flower pot where you can stick your favorite flowers so everytime you lift it to you face you can smell daisies I'll still be buying it.
Why?
Because at the moment (and when it arrives very soon) there will be nothing like it. The Canon G10 has a sensor that is near microscopic in comparison, the Panasonic LX3 and Ricoh GRD/gx100 are just as bad, the sigma DP1/DP2 has a weird foveon sensor and underdeveloped interface/AF that I don't want to have to rely on for work, not to mention NONE of the above have interchangeable lenses.

Details details, the concept of the camera remains - a big sensor and interchangeable lenses in a compact camera. If the first one doesn't meet everyones exacting requirements chances are down the line there will be one that comes pretty close. Its the concept - the baselines on which the camera is developed that is so exciting.
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Gavins post is well written with factual information. It deserves a re-read. I agree with Gavin about the animosity, IN THIS FORUM, toward this new Micro 4/3rd camera and against 4/3rds in general.

This is the PENultimate bridge camera from Point and Shoot to a decent sensor size AND lens interchangability and is a first in the market in terms of the G1 and now in a compact camera.

Olympus continues to prove it's history for innovation and survival skills.

And William... I would bet that you are actually a "closet" Olympus fan and have the money burning in your pocket for this new Olympus product. Your perpetual gruffness is a sham.
 
kuzano said:
I agree with Gavin about the animosity, IN THIS FORUM, toward this new Micro 4/3rd camera and against 4/3rds in general.
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Indeed - strange reaction to a company that is bringing something innovative to the market. Looking at comments from users like Majid, who in previous posts had a favorable reaction to the new Oly camera, it seems like many just need to justify ownership of their current equipment (Sigma DP2 in Majid's case) and want to be negative Nellies. Oh well, I've seen this so many times on other forums, just unfortunate in this case.
 
change can be hard for the aged...;)

i like the m4/3 stuff and have the g1 plus kit lenses, i look forward to the 20/1.7 panasonic lens and i hope that the new oly will be even better.

i always think it's funny how folks can make such rigid comments about something that no one has seen yet.

and remember, be kind to the old folks...
 
Has there been a price announced for the pana 20/1.7? That would be a great general purpose speed/size lens...
 
I sense that many people have just moved on being excited about this camera. It has been a year since the promise of the Olympus, and people have already discussed, bought and sold the Panasonic G1 (which is similar in concept).

Stop the ads and just produce a camera already.
 
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