Leica LTM IXMOO and FILCAS for dummies

Leica M39 screw mount bodies/lenses
Here are my IXMOO (left) and FILCA cassettes. You can clearly see the height difference. I was puzzled at first when Erik said black button for the FILCA, then I realized that my example was so extensively pre-loved that most of the black paint had been worn off the button.
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The Fritz Vith book is apparently sought after, ie prices are not reasonable, especially if you lack German!!


There are numerous variants on the FILCA and IXMOO, previously noted in the Forum "Made in Switzeland" Leitz NY stamped as well.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1263994&postcount=31

I have not seen the C variant noted above but do have a black generic FILCA with no makers mark. Not brass, not smooth in operation, which came pretending to be a genuine FILCA in a batch I bought.
I am told, TomA, that Japan distibutor Accura also marketed IXMOO type cassettes as well, they certainly sold reflex housings for Leica bodies:

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Accura_reflex_housing

They seem to have been distributors buying in products to re-sell, noted some are marked Accura Germany.

http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Accura
 
I have one that is marked "Made in Switzerland". I also have several model A FILCA's, but these are unreliable (they were replaced by model B).

Many people do not know that Contax and Nikon had their own cassettes. I am not sure about Canon. The very early Nikon cassettes are fascinating because of their variations. They are not mentioned in the books by Rotoloni, maybe because they have been made by others.

You better do not take them with you when flying. It will be useless to try to explain security personnel what they are.

Erik.
 
Erik van Straten said:
The very early Nikon cassettes are fascinating because of their variations. They are not mentioned in the books by Rotoloni, maybe because they have been made by others.

Erik.
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Indeed the Nikon ones are in addition easy to date with the film speed indicator on the base, as time passes the maximum speed increases !! The early ones are a beautiful lacquered brass with Nikon, old font, on the side, very different than the later black "crinkle" finish. I have one in the original Nipon box which seems unused as well as several well used examples I still use regularly.

Canon did indeed have a variant:

http://www.zen92232.zen.co.uk/Canon/Canon-Spool-007.jpg


As did Zeiss:
http://www.rockycameras.com/ekmps/s...e-shell-cased-2.99-634-p[ekm]500x281[ekm].jpg
 
Thank you, Chris, for showing these.

I have two brass Nikon cassettes with the old logo, one with film speed reminder (beginning with 200) and the other without. They have a different configuration and center spool. The one without film speed reminder is probably from the Nikon M era, the other from the early S2 era.

I also have a Russian cassette with the inscription SARP. Very mysterious to me.

Erik.
 
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There is also a small Turkish town with that name on the border with Georgia. Maybe the Turkish customs or border guards used this cassette.

Erik.
 
Similar to your question why use the Latin? It is another distinct possible though I missed that one!!
I did discount the border but again you are correct it could be, there is also small French town but that is pushing it.
It is odd to use the full stop though for any of these and on the inner section where wear occurs, a very interesting piece. Thanks for posting the picture,who knows someone will search for this one day and give a definitive answer.
 
Hi,

I've one or two with the bottom plain, meaning without the Ernst Leitz etc stamped on them but all of them (with or without the stamping) have the slim curved line (like a scratch) from the corner of the slot.

BTW, there seems to be several versions of the stamping, large and small letters etc. I wonder if the job was sub-contracted. And the original cassettes seem to have a date like "4 28" instead.

Regards, David
 
David Hughes said:
Hi,

I've one or two with the bottom plain, meaning without the Ernst Leitz etc stamped on them but all of them (with or without the stamping) have the slim curved line (like a scratch) from the corner of the slot.
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The curved line was to indicate at wich side the film schould be cut.

I have a model A cassette with neither the scratch nor the name. The spool inside is very simple, like on the pictures in the Vith book. This must be the earliest type.

They were almost certainly outsourced, maybe to a ammunition factory out of work after WW1 as no real precision was required.

Erik.
 
Erik van Straten said:
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There is also a small Turkish town with that name on the border with Georgia. Maybe the Turkish customs or border guards used this cassette.

Erik.
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Letters on this casette are actually Russian ЗАКР. , which is abbreviated form of ЗАКРЫТО. In English it means CLOSED.
 
mcfingon said:
I've always been too scared to use the fingers through the shutter method, Mr Flibble. I had enough fear to conquer just to use the "card down the back" method so I don't have to make a long leader.
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Danger. So is the business card.

Trim the leader back 22 holes like you are supposed to do. When Kodak and others changed to short Tongue, the original length remained so you do not lose any frames.

The film will stay in the track properly. Add spacer if required. Set camera to B to see if you need spacer to hold it up.
 
Hi,

I wonder if there's an English translation of Emmermann's book; the problem being that titles are never translated literally.

Regards, David
 
Erik van Straten said:
...They were almost certainly outsourced, maybe to a ammunition factory out of work after WW1 as no real precision was required.

Erik.
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Thanks, that would explain the "4 28" date on the bottom as that would be normal/important for an ammo. maker and also the later circular inscription would have been child's play to an ammo maker.

As for the tolerances, which were/are very high for German and British ammunition, arms and ammo from the Great War are very hi-tech by today's miserable standards. Perhaps the tooling was worn out?

Regards, David
 
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