atlcruiser
Part Yeti
Hi All,
Guess i can post here now that i have a mighty X PAN! Whoooooooo Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I have wanted one for a long while and found a good deal for a beat up yet perfect on in the RFF classifieds.
So far 2 rolls through it...funky meter but I am comparing the M8 and M6 meter. Does not seem as accurate but close enough
Great feel to it. I am used to the M bodies and this is so different. The auto advance is a new one to me... MY MF stuff has that but never have I owned a 35mm with it. Quick way to burn film!
VF is great...no worries on that but maybe a touch small...
Focus is perfect, as nice as my Leica glass
I am not really sure what I should do with the rear window. I shoot manual and I am in the habit of looking at the dials not a read out. I guess I will ignore it for now.
Scanning was a bit of an adventure! I use a Canon 8800F and it works but takes a while to set up. Any suggesstions?
paint is about 40% gone. Maybe strip all of it and polish it up?
How accurate is the A setting?
Remote shutter release? Am I misisng it?
This is funny. The GF is all over me about my "camera money." I chose not to tell her about the X pan. I left my paypal up and she figured out how much it cost. I told her how neat it was and all the great stuff it will do and I really tried to get her excited. She was neutral at best! I brought it home and proudly showed it off to her in all of its chipped and beat up glory....she said it looked like it went through the washing machine, asked how in the hell I could pay what i did for it and walked away shaking here head.
here is Pic one from roll one....
Guess i can post here now that i have a mighty X PAN! Whoooooooo Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I have wanted one for a long while and found a good deal for a beat up yet perfect on in the RFF classifieds.
So far 2 rolls through it...funky meter but I am comparing the M8 and M6 meter. Does not seem as accurate but close enough
Great feel to it. I am used to the M bodies and this is so different. The auto advance is a new one to me... MY MF stuff has that but never have I owned a 35mm with it. Quick way to burn film!
VF is great...no worries on that but maybe a touch small...
Focus is perfect, as nice as my Leica glass
I am not really sure what I should do with the rear window. I shoot manual and I am in the habit of looking at the dials not a read out. I guess I will ignore it for now.
Scanning was a bit of an adventure! I use a Canon 8800F and it works but takes a while to set up. Any suggesstions?
paint is about 40% gone. Maybe strip all of it and polish it up?
How accurate is the A setting?
Remote shutter release? Am I misisng it?
This is funny. The GF is all over me about my "camera money." I chose not to tell her about the X pan. I left my paypal up and she figured out how much it cost. I told her how neat it was and all the great stuff it will do and I really tried to get her excited. She was neutral at best! I brought it home and proudly showed it off to her in all of its chipped and beat up glory....she said it looked like it went through the washing machine, asked how in the hell I could pay what i did for it and walked away shaking here head.
here is Pic one from roll one....
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crist
Crist
Congratulations David, I really love this camera , i don´t have one yet.. but soon..i hope.

davidtth
Established
welcome to the club 
yes, i have the same joy when i 1st acquire my xpan2, its an absolute best cam for me !
as in A mode, from my experience due to the long format, the xpan read from far left to far right, if any strong light goes into it especially on corner, the metering read may not be accurate. side, it doesn't works well at F22 where i'd prefer to do manual shutter setting (based on my experience)
scanner wise, V700 would be the best choice among all scanner, unless u have big pocket coolscan ED9000 should be the top for it
yes, i have the same joy when i 1st acquire my xpan2, its an absolute best cam for me !
as in A mode, from my experience due to the long format, the xpan read from far left to far right, if any strong light goes into it especially on corner, the metering read may not be accurate. side, it doesn't works well at F22 where i'd prefer to do manual shutter setting (based on my experience)
scanner wise, V700 would be the best choice among all scanner, unless u have big pocket coolscan ED9000 should be the top for it
Gareth67
Member
Yes, I have an Xpan - great camera's.
I use a Epson V770 to proof - I put the negatives in the carrier, then scan the entire flatbed in one low resolution scan. Colour is pretty awful, but it gives you the idea. Scanning them individually is just way to time consuming - even using a batch scan with Vuescan
I then use a Coolscan 9000 for the good scans.
Cheers
Gareth
I use a Epson V770 to proof - I put the negatives in the carrier, then scan the entire flatbed in one low resolution scan. Colour is pretty awful, but it gives you the idea. Scanning them individually is just way to time consuming - even using a batch scan with Vuescan
I then use a Coolscan 9000 for the good scans.
Cheers
Gareth
atlcruiser
Part Yeti
I did the scanning as a batch as well then was able to crop and get the scans done. It take way too long but it works.
ANy experience with commercial scans such as North Coast Photo or the like?
ANy experience with commercial scans such as North Coast Photo or the like?
stompyq
Well-known
Congrats!!! You'll love it. I picked one up in mint shape a couple of months back. Sadly i'am going to miss it. Mine will be up in the classified ads in a bit. Life got in the way of mine......
I
igy
Guest
congrats. it's a lovely thing... hopefully i can get one for myself too some day. 
Parkes Owen
grain fed
congrats on the camera, regarding the A mode, it works really well once you get used to the meter, it`s basically center weighted, if you are shooting landscapes hand held, 1/3 sky and 2/3 land or foreground in the viewfinder will usually get you a decent exposure, as too much sky will throw the meter way out.
The AE lock on the xpan is excellent, just like a leica m7, I use it all the time with velvia no probs.
The pano format is quite different in terms of composition and exposure, and can be challenging at times, but once you get used to it, it`s great fun, and the xpan is an awsome camera! enjoy!
The AE lock on the xpan is excellent, just like a leica m7, I use it all the time with velvia no probs.
The pano format is quite different in terms of composition and exposure, and can be challenging at times, but once you get used to it, it`s great fun, and the xpan is an awsome camera! enjoy!
DrTebi
Slide Lover
I can only share your excitement... I just recently got one myself (first model, which came with the 90mm as well) but unfortunately haven't had much time to shoot with it yet.
Scanning xpan negatives or positives is a bit of a hustle--but possible. Here are a lot of tips:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/hasselbladxpan/discuss/72157613752675891/
Notice the post from "ElectrikCandyland" -- I pm'ed him and he told me about the Heidelberg Tango scanner. There are only a handful of labs out there that offer scans on this scanner, but if you have a really nice shot that you want to blow up or just want a great digital copy of it, give it a shot. I have seen scans from this scanner, they were just amazing.
I agree that the feel of the xpan is really solid, great strong construction. Everything feels just so "right" with this camera, despite it's small size (compared to SLR or MF cameras). I have used a Leica M8 for a while, and I still think that the xpan feels better that the M8.
The only thing that really bugs me about the xpan are the slow lenses. If they had only one that was a 2.8, it would really make the camera more versatile. Well, maybe I should try some flash photography for indoor stuff, although I am not a big fan of using a flash.
Anyway, enjoy your camera! You will start seeing the world through different eyes, panoramic eyes
Scanning xpan negatives or positives is a bit of a hustle--but possible. Here are a lot of tips:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/hasselbladxpan/discuss/72157613752675891/
Notice the post from "ElectrikCandyland" -- I pm'ed him and he told me about the Heidelberg Tango scanner. There are only a handful of labs out there that offer scans on this scanner, but if you have a really nice shot that you want to blow up or just want a great digital copy of it, give it a shot. I have seen scans from this scanner, they were just amazing.
I agree that the feel of the xpan is really solid, great strong construction. Everything feels just so "right" with this camera, despite it's small size (compared to SLR or MF cameras). I have used a Leica M8 for a while, and I still think that the xpan feels better that the M8.
The only thing that really bugs me about the xpan are the slow lenses. If they had only one that was a 2.8, it would really make the camera more versatile. Well, maybe I should try some flash photography for indoor stuff, although I am not a big fan of using a flash.
Anyway, enjoy your camera! You will start seeing the world through different eyes, panoramic eyes
crist
Crist
any adapter with rf coupling?exist?
didjiman
Richard Man
Not generally, but I have a Leica 50mm Summicron R converted to use with the XPan. The only reason to use it is for the F2, and it works reasonably well enough. It covers 24mmx~52mm and the focus is not accurate closer than 4 ft or so. So limited uses but it comes in handy once in a while.
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
That must be a very nice camera! Congratulations!
Cheers,
Juan
Cheers,
Juan
DrTebi
Slide Lover
Not generally, but I have a Leica 50mm Summicron R converted to use with the XPan. The only reason to use it is for the F2, and it works reasonably well enough. It covers 24mmx~52mm and the focus is not accurate closer than 4 ft or so. So limited uses but it comes in handy once in a while.
Interesting! Would you like to share with us how you got it converted?
Bill58
Native Texan
Sounds like a helluva deal w/ the Summicron R zoom. I can't see why the close focus limitation would be much of a problem, especially in wide angle mode. However, maybe I'm missing something there. Do you see a noticeable improvement in pic quality over the Fuji/ Hassy lens?
didjiman
Richard Man
Sounds like a helluva deal w/ the Summicron R zoom. I can't see why the close focus limitation would be much of a problem, especially in wide angle mode. However, maybe I'm missing something there. Do you see a noticeable improvement in pic quality over the Fuji/ Hassy lens?
Not a zoom but the 50mm R prime lens. On cursory checks, the performance is not worse than the 45mm Fuji/Hassy lens in the center (and not better), but are worse at the corners - to be expected as the corners are beyond the normal 35mm camera image circle.
Since there is no reason to go through the trouble of converting the lens except to use it at F2-F4 (otherwise the 45mm XPan suffices), the lack of focusing accuracy at close range is a concern.
Colin Corneau
Colin Corneau
Parkes Owen gave some good advice re: metering with this camera.
I have one, absolutely love it. Sharp sharp lenses, solidly built camera and I love how well designed the camera is -- switching from regular format to panoramic at anytime, with one quick flip of a switch, is inspired.
I have one, absolutely love it. Sharp sharp lenses, solidly built camera and I love how well designed the camera is -- switching from regular format to panoramic at anytime, with one quick flip of a switch, is inspired.
atlcruiser
Part Yeti
I just printed a a photo on my r2400. 10" x 30" +/-
I cannot look at it and believe this is 35mm.....
..this will be a downhill slide into many panos and the singly guy life if I am not very careful
I cannot look at it and believe this is 35mm.....
..this will be a downhill slide into many panos and the singly guy life if I am not very careful
raytoei@gmail.com
Veteran
Yeah. I know how you feel. I just got my beaten up Xpan with the following issues:
* one missing lug (anyone know a good case with its own strap ?)
* mid-roll remind does not work
got is cheap with the 45mm lens.
Here is an example of the shot taken on this past Sunday evening:
* one missing lug (anyone know a good case with its own strap ?)
* mid-roll remind does not work
got is cheap with the 45mm lens.

Here is an example of the shot taken on this past Sunday evening:

Harold Gough
Established
The main problem I found with the metering is in very contrasty scenes, with bright sky. These tend to give about 1 stop underexposure.
Turtle
Veteran
The main problem I found with the metering is in very contrasty scenes, with bright sky. These tend to give about 1 stop underexposure.
Thats pretty well normal with almost all cameras I have used, including those with sophisticated matrix metering. Its mostly a prob with B&W neg material where shadow detail is key. Should not be too hard to recognise in future scenes and compensate. With B&W neg its amazing how you can abuse the highlights by showing them right up the scale and still print them down nicely. As an aside the RH designs paper flasher is the most incredibly useful accessory for helping here. I shoot in Afghanistan and biting contrast is particularly problematic in winter with deep blue sky lit shadows.
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