kiev internal focusing system

[micromontenegro]

You know - for me, cameras are tools. I may be too much a pragmatist fellow, and not a poetic-minded guy enough !

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Your loss. No sex pipe dreams for you! :angel:

 

[Highway 61]

Myself, due to my more usual subjects and my own habits at the street, usualy have my camera setted at the 3m mark and from this starting point I easily fine focus any subject in the range of 1,5m and infinity.

If I am within a bus, for example, and my subjet is sitting at an unknown distance close to me, I preset my camera to 1,5m and I know I will have a nice juxtaposition to start focusing my subject, provided she/he is sitting between 3m and 0,9m. I will raise my camera, fine tune my focusing in a fraction of second, and be able to fire at will.

This is my solution, but by no means the only one. RFF member VinceC, uses a much more refined way. Before raising his camera to his eye, he guesses the distance, set the lens accordingly and then fine focuses the necessary bit.

Cheers,
Ruben

Well, I have very carefully re-read your last post and it's now obvious that what you try to perform is the best zone-focus that would suit your own photography habits.

I think you have got it perfectly : predictive zone-focus for getting snapshots from the "decisive moments".

I think you're ready to just use a guess-focus fixed (yet excellent) lens compact film camera if you wish - you'll see, you will now take perfectly focused snapshots even without any rangefinder.

That's often what rangefinder cameras lead us to : being able to zone-focus very accurately.

Exactly like what the regular use of a metered camera tell us : how to meter the light without light meter.

Back to the basics, in other words !

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[Kino Glaz]

Wow, this is a very educational discussion!

That explains the mystery of how my friend, a Smena -8m user is able to produce sharp shots despite not having any rangefinder to establish focus with. So its just the eye and some zone-focusing which accounts for this.
The Smena has a 40 mm lens, and has icons on its barrel, as well as metric numbers. Now I know that there's not much magic involved really.

Now, I want to know how the Kiev becomes a "sex pipe".....that's one feature that is totally absent from any Leica I've seen! 😀

 

[ruben]

...............Nevertheless, I can't follow all these fresh explanations about the focusing-techniques quite easily. They might be interesting, no doubt, but I just don't get them all.

You know - for me, cameras are tools. I may be too much a pragmatist fellow, and not a poetic-minded guy enough !

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Hi Highway 61,
Kindly don't feel offended if I tell you that indeed your subsequent posts here show I have been misunderstood by you.

Instead of me trying to explain myself again, let it be as it is, with you saying what you say and me saying the technique to the two stations, 3m and 1.5m is intended to achieve critical focus after slight fine tuning.

It can be the case I didn't explain myself properly, or other reason not directly related to me, but this is not important.

In any case I do thank you for your kind attention, and we still have ahead many issues and opportunities for me to learn from you.

Cheers,
Ruben

 

[Highway 61]

Seems that you are indeed talking of the [quick zone-focus + fast rangefinder-focusing] habits based upon a good "guessfocusing" ability and which we all do perform with our rangefinder cameras for candid photography, unless I really can't get what you're talking about - but this is a no-brainer problem, relax and have a cigar.

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You nevertheless may have a look at : http://www.dofmaster.com/

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