tripod
Well-known
IMO:
I love Ruben! There, I've said it.
He is over the top many times. (Sometimes way over.) For technical advice I may go elsewhere.
Nikon RF's are way better than Kievs and Contaxes at least from a reliability standpoint.
But I still love Ruben.
I love Ruben! There, I've said it.
He is over the top many times. (Sometimes way over.) For technical advice I may go elsewhere.
Nikon RF's are way better than Kievs and Contaxes at least from a reliability standpoint.
But I still love Ruben.
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spiderfrank
just a dreamer
wow!! Beautiful shots, Zorkikat!! I like very much your reportage, it ... "taste good": nice and smiling people, beautiful beaches, a genuine life ! I'd like to start now, to go there! 
Thank you for sharing!
Franco
ps: your colour shots are a bit "strange"... What film did you use? When I use my J-8 and Fuji Provia (slide film) the colours are much more brilliant and saturated, is it a negative colour film?
Thank you for sharing!
Franco
ps: your colour shots are a bit "strange"... What film did you use? When I use my J-8 and Fuji Provia (slide film) the colours are much more brilliant and saturated, is it a negative colour film?
spiderfrank
just a dreamer
ps: and what is the "halo" ?
moretto
EFKE Lover
Come on, my friends... What a crazy thread is this? Stop discussing about the sex of the angels, go out and take some photos !! Next week I want to see some shots from your Kiev, Zorki, Contax, Fed, Nikon ...
Franco
ps: here in Italy we say "ogni scarrafone è bello a mamma sua" ...![]()
Good idea!! Don't look at the camera, look through it.
So yesterday I went to a local car slalom race
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micromontenegro
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Is this about photgraphy? O my! I thought it was about mental health issues! Presidential pardons granted all around!
tripod
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Is this about photgraphy? O my! I thought it was about mental health issues! Presidential pardons granted all around!
Excellent! Let's all start afresh.
spiderfrank
just a dreamer
So yesterday I went to a local car slalom race, took my non-user-friendly Kiev
, and loaded with (very clever choice for car race) 50 asa ilford :bang:...lucky there were vintage cars
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Everybody can do good photos to a car race with a DSRL at 1600 iso, a big zoom and 10 shots per second! But the real artist can do a good job even with a 50 iso and a beautiful "not-so-user-friendly" Kiev...
Nice shots Moretto: some years ago also here in Italy you could still see Fiat 600s running in the slalom races... And Autobianchi A112, Alpine Renault 110, and the fabulouse Lancia Stratos! Now they are too old and no more allowed to race... It's very sad!
spiderfrank
just a dreamer
I personally prefer my colours to be a bit on the pale side. Some post-scan tweaking achieved the lower saturation.
Ok, if the pale colours are a choice, I cannot discuss them, they give an "old time look" to the photos...
nzeeman
Well-known
what happened to f2eyelevel posts here???
micromontenegro
Well-known
Hey, I was right all along! This IS about mental health issues!
zhang xk
Well-known
You've hit the nail MHV
Yes. Today I have learned a lot from you all. Before I could not explain so well why I liked Kiev.
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
I hope that you can get well real soon Fred...such a great Nikon RF mind to waste.
BTW,..mmm thats a tasty lookin Ruben.
BTW,..mmm thats a tasty lookin Ruben.
zhang xk
Well-known
Yes. Today I have learned a lot from you all. Before I could not explain so well why I liked Kiev.![]()
But the second half of this thread is very hard to follow. Perhaps some messages were deleted?:bang:
robbiechad
RobbieChad
Hi, Strange it looks like f2eyelevel, has scarpered, I cant find his post on the Contax repair he did. looks like hes taken his ball and isnt going to play anymore.
Spyderman
Well-known
This used to be a nice thread, where everybody wrote what they liked about Kievs, how Kievs are different etc.
Why not turn to that instead of fighting and insulting each other ?
Why not turn to that instead of fighting and insulting each other ?
robbiechad
RobbieChad
Hi, Ondrej, I,m with you, I have just taken delivery of a Menopta 1.8 for my Kiev, I,ll post some pics when Ive finished the film.
timmyd18
Established
I'm with Ondrej too! My first Kiev is on its way because of this forum, I was sad that so much fighting happened.
Its coming with a J-12 but also a Helios, which I've heard very good things about
tim
Its coming with a J-12 but also a Helios, which I've heard very good things about
tim
Ed S.
Member
Second Post
I was going to ask about the overall reliability of the Kiev 4A (I have a new one, received as a gift in 1981), given that it has been examined/adjusted by a capable repairman, compared to the Kiev 2 & 3 and Contax II/III.
But I see that f2eyelevel’s posts are missing (and at another thread on this forum, too) and the website http://photocam12.free.fr/contax2overhaul.htm is no longer available.
After reading this thread a couple of times, I realize that there really was a severe conflict of some sort, and posters were serious. The end result seems surprising, given the posts, but I also read, among others, Kos, LGF, Strategypage.
Is my question an inopportune one?
I was going to ask about the overall reliability of the Kiev 4A (I have a new one, received as a gift in 1981), given that it has been examined/adjusted by a capable repairman, compared to the Kiev 2 & 3 and Contax II/III.
But I see that f2eyelevel’s posts are missing (and at another thread on this forum, too) and the website http://photocam12.free.fr/contax2overhaul.htm is no longer available.
After reading this thread a couple of times, I realize that there really was a severe conflict of some sort, and posters were serious. The end result seems surprising, given the posts, but I also read, among others, Kos, LGF, Strategypage.
Is my question an inopportune one?
Ed S.
Member
I had Fedka clean and adjust my Kiev about 4 months ago and fix a minor problem, and it seems quite reliable.
From one of the previous links, the Kiev 2 and 3 are exact copies of the Contax (II or III), and appear to be as reliable, or can be adjusted to be as reliable. Comparing the price of a Contax and a Kiev 3, I'm inclined towards the Kiev 3.
How much of a disadvantage are the Kiev 4’s design changes? The feeling seems to be that once set up and operated correctly, the Kiev 4 is only at a small disadvantage.
As far the Nikon being noticeably more reliable, well, Nikons seem to be known for reliability, so I’m not surprised.
From one of the previous links, the Kiev 2 and 3 are exact copies of the Contax (II or III), and appear to be as reliable, or can be adjusted to be as reliable. Comparing the price of a Contax and a Kiev 3, I'm inclined towards the Kiev 3.
How much of a disadvantage are the Kiev 4’s design changes? The feeling seems to be that once set up and operated correctly, the Kiev 4 is only at a small disadvantage.
As far the Nikon being noticeably more reliable, well, Nikons seem to be known for reliability, so I’m not surprised.
Spyderman
Well-known
How much of a disadvantage are the Kiev 4’s design changes? The feeling seems to be that once set up and operated correctly, the Kiev 4 is only at a small disadvantage.
Kiev 4's were in production for a very long time. From mid '60s to mid '80s. During this period there have been some changes to simplify and cheapen the production. If yours is a Kiev 4 type 1 (metal selt-timer lever, leather covering) then it is probably still high quality finish. If it's the later type 2 it might be slightly more rough. Kiev 4[a]m's are said to be the the roughest, although I don't own one.
IMO an early Kiev 4 (i.e. type1) is the ultimate Kiev version. It's still precisely manufactured, but has the sleeker lines of the post-war Contax IIa/IIIa.
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