Kodak ceasing production of all film - FALSE ALARM

[k__43]

All - as I said on the Reddit forum, I work with Kodak's PR agency for film. Kodak has not ceased production of its films. We'll be at Photokina in September with our full film portfolio.

I'm looking forward to whine to the first Kodak rep I'll see in Cologne about how much I loved E100G. 😀

 

[Murchu]

Well, like all others, I am hoping this is not true, and that the main benefit of all this will be to show the great love for film and thus demand for film out there.

I will be very sad if TriX dies in my lifetime..

 

[gb hill]

"THIS Film" The letter is talking about BW400CN ONLY.

 

[wilonstott]

Alright, move along. Nothing to see here.

Everybody go back to work.

OP, you ruined my breakfast.

The good news is, I'll get over it.

Honest mistake--I don't hate you.

Mods (if you're up there, some where) take this thread down so late sleepers don't wake up and go crazy.

In the future, check your sources thoroughly, gentlemen.

Let's not screw up any more perfectly good cups of coffee.

Good day.

 

[gavinlg]

Both my Kodak contacts responded very rapidly. Here is what one of them wrote:

Hi Roger, This is a mistake on Rangefinderforum. Very aggravating. We will find the source and correct it immediately. Looking forward to seeing you at Photokina.

The other said much the same.

Hope this settles the panic!

Cheers,

R.

Thanks for the update Roger 🙂

 

[gb hill]

Seriously, If Kodak stopped ALL film manufacturing then the movie industry would be in a crap shoot. Digital hasn't taken over that part of the film industry yet.

 

[FrankS]

Very relieved to hear that it's a misunderstanding at the customer service end.

BW400CN is still listed on the site linked from the reddit discussion, so now I'm none the wiser whatsoever.

Jamie, I think I've made my position clear on this thread from the beginning that I was hoping that the information was incorrect, however what I reported was only exactly what I was told by the company themselves, and later confirmed by phone, hardly Fox style sensationalist news reporting.

I'm beyond happy that the information seems to be incorrect, however there are a couple of members who'd do better not to default to wanting to shoot the messenger when they're trying to help.

On a personal note, although the fate of BW400CN is somewhat unconfirmed, I think I'll add to my stock of it just in case

You could have chosen a less incendiary title for your thread.
Thanks to the mod who modified it.

 

[Gumby]

Can someone from the US please get in contact with Rochester to set things straight?

That's easier said than done. They haven't responded to my last two enquiries.

 

[jasonrutter]

Alright, move along. Nothing to see here.

Everybody go back to work.

OP, you ruined my breakfast.

The good news is, I'll get over it.

Honest mistake--I don't hate you.

Mods (if you're up there, some where) take this thread down so late sleepers don't wake up and go crazy.

In the future, check your sources thoroughly, gentlemen.

Let's not screw up any more perfectly good cups of coffee.

Good day.

Ahmen. The thread should go. The momentary panic is a bit too much for a Monday.

 

[KM-25]

I'm beyond happy that the information seems to be incorrect, however there are a couple of members who'd do better not to default to wanting to shoot the messenger when they're trying to help.

Then don't be the messenger until you have quadruple checked the validity of information from what is obviously a *Huge* rumor. Seriously man, don't be that guy!

I would have spent not hours but days fact checking before dropping that massive steaming pile....

 

[dcsang]

What's this about Kodak bringing back Kodachrome? *smirk*

😀

Cheers,
Dave

 

[.... _]

I wish kodak would do us all a favour and hurry up and die. I've had my fill of stories about the demise of their products and don't use them anymore. So basically I couldn't give a monkeys if they stop producing film products. They made it blatantly obvious they see no future in film so why people continue to support them I have no idea.

 

[Jamie123]

Jamie, I think I've made my position clear on this thread from the beginning that I was hoping that the information was incorrect, however what I reported was only exactly what I was told by the company themselves, and later confirmed by phone, hardly Fox style sensationalist news reporting.

The thread title was "Kodak ceasing production of all film" which was about as sensationalist as possible. You stated something as fact when clearly your source was unofficial. I'm not saying you meant anything bad by it but you have to be careful with such thread titles. Just because you didn't make the rumor up doesn't mean it's a good thing to spread it further.

 

[KM-25]

I wish kodak would do us all a favour and hurry up and die. I've had my fill of stories about the demise of their products and don't use them anymore. So basically I couldn't give a monkeys if they stop producing film products. They made it blatantly obvious they see no future in film so why people continue to support them I have no idea.

Ummmm......blatant would have been nixing everything at the annoncement of C-11. And blatant would be the level of rudeness you have shown among people here who value their hard work to keep the fantastic products they do have still in production.

 

[jsrockit]

That's a UK toll free number, similar to 1-800 in the states

Oops, thanks. 🙂

 

[BlackXList]

Then don't be the messenger until you have quadruple checked the validity of information from what is obviously a *Huge* rumor. Seriously man, don't be that guy!

I would have spent not hours but days fact checking before dropping that massive steaming pile....

Considering I'd been in touch with Kodak 4 times in 4 seperate ways about the future of one film stock over the course of a week, and when one of them finally got back to me I copied and pasted the entire response into the thread,
and given that the thread title was only as incendiary as the information I was sent by the company's customer service department,which they later confirmed on the phone repeatedly,
then honestly, I don't feel bad about passing on information which would have had a huge effect on everyone on here, and the use of film in general.

As I said before I limited my posting on this topic to relaying what I'd been told by the company themselves, not conjecture. So I honestly don't feel there was anything amiss in any of my posting on the topic. I reported exactly what I was told by representatives of the company

My "source" was not "unofficial" it was KODAK, this is rather clear from the thread, the contact details are there for anyone to see precisely because the information was coming from kodak. Otherwise I would have written it off as the same rumours that everyone has read a million times.

I don't feel it was sensationalist or "Fox News" esque to report exactly what a representative from the company told me and later confirmed, I believe that in general that's exactly what customer service is for, and frankly I'm not about to be held responsible for the kind of shoddy practice that has the only one of 4 contact points for a company that bother to respond giving out completely false information.

On a personal level I'm very happy that it turns out the customer service people in the UK have been giving out and confirming wrong information, and I look forward to using Kodak products as long as I can.

 

[Lord Nikon]

I vote ban.

 

[Roger Hicks]

Considering I'd been in touch with Kodak 4 times in 4 separate ways about the future of one film stock over the course of a week, and when one of them finally got back to me I copied and pasted the entire response into the thread. . .

I don't think you could have been a lot more straightforward and honest about it. All right, with hindsight, maybe a question mark at the end of the thread title might have been a good idea, but as you say, it was someone at Kodak who told you this. And repeated it on the 'phone. What were you supposed to think?

Cheers,

R.

 

[Roger Hicks]

I wish kodak would do us all a favour and hurry up and die. I've had my fill of stories about the demise of their products and don't use them anymore. So basically I couldn't give a monkeys if they stop producing film products. They made it blatantly obvious they see no future in film so why people continue to support them I have no idea.

Who in this case are 'they'?

Perez, yes. But he's a salesman and knows very little about anything. Plenty of other Kodak people REALLY believe in film -- and I'd bet that they (and film) will be there after Perez has gone.

Kodak's biggest ever mistake was appointing salesmen -- Fisher, Carp, Perez -- instead of people who actually knew the business. Of course it's a counterfactual conditional, but I believe that the rot set in when they didn't appoint Carl Kohrt in 2000.

Cheers,

R.

 

[BobYIL]

I am not concerning at all... Many productions survived through downsizing or changing hands.. The "surgery" needed was not new news and also under the current management the patient was not receiving any treatment at all. Probably the best "cure" would be to reach to the "dead end" we all were scared about; so that some other hands seeing their future in this production could start implementing anything better than what the present situation pointing to with the Kodak management still on. Just months ago we were reading the comments of a contractor here, who was ordering some batches of Tri-X for some very affordable total cost; meaning: The process could easily survive with more enthusiastic approach and with profit! The same story with Ilford films, Rollei, Orwo and even Adox (probably living on only a few hundreds of rolls a week!). Film production is not hi-tech anymore, it has been with us since more than 80 years; the only issue here there is no problem with the Mack, it's functioning fine but the driver is from Nascar races, not an optimum driver for heavy trucks... so needs to be replaced.

I wish they sell this production line as soon as possible.