Kodak Eastman 4-x (5224) film.

[Sid836]

I have acquired a 122m roll of that negative film. I know that it is old, it looks like anyway, but does anybody have any information about it? Can it be developed by using ordinary developers such as Rodinal, T-Max, etc?

 

[sevo]

4-X was sold until the early nineties - might still be good, given that motion picture stock often spent most of its time in cold storage. Can't find a data sheet, but the official developer will have been D-96 (i.e. a variation of D-76 tweaked for continuous processors), somewhat pointless for photographic use. Given the age I'd start with a exposure around ISO 200 (nominal was 500, but it may have lost a stop or two) and process in HC-110 Dil B for seven minutes - and tweak exposure and processing depending on the results.

 

[Sid836]

Thank you! Being a motion picture film does it have anything like remjet to remove during processing?

 

[Joosep]

No remjet on that guy.
Just do a test first. Most likely the film will be around ISO100 or even lover.

 

[sevo]

Thank you! Being a motion picture film does it have anything like remjet to remove during processing?

Not that I am aware of. I haven't ever run into remjet on black and white MP film - if it ever existed, it must have had a pretty small regional or application niche.

 

[Sid836]

I will run a test round at EI 100 and 200 and see how it goes. Can this film be developed in Rodinal? In terms of grain is it worth trying it with rodinal?

 

[sevo]

I will run a test round at EI 100 and 200 and see how it goes. Can this film be developed in Rodinal? In terms of grain is it worth trying it with rodinal?

If it has suffered fogging (which is likely), Rodinal or any other acutance enhancing developer will increase the fogging and make its grain texture more visible.

D76/ID-11 would develop it close to its original characteristics, HC-110 would do the best (among commercially available developers) at fog suppression.

 

[Sid836]

Great! Thank you! I will try it in HC-110. Considering the total length of it I have it is worth going for it.

 

[Sid836]

I have tried a test roll of it and nothing came out. The film has developed to a dark brownish negative with just faint images in most frames. It is almost completely opaque.

 

[wblynch]

Needs more fixing? Less developing? Less exposure?

 

[sevo]

Brown, huh? If the perforation is clear, you are over exposing or developing. If it is opaque, there must be some other problem. Regular or radiation fog is black like the image formed by exposure. Maybe it has chemically fogged? Or there is colour film inside that can - small amounts of unexposed motion picture film often are 'ends', that is, unexposed fragments unloaded from camera magazines, which might not come in the original can and box.

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[Eugen Mezei]

Sid836, can you post a picture of it? So we could identify if it is color film.

I als bought some cans of 122 m of that film you are supposed to have, so I am interested in the topic.

 

[Freakscene]

Sid836 has not logged in to RFF since 16 August 2017.

It is not colour film. It is ISO500 black and white cine film, produced until 1990.

Marty