markjwyatt
Well-known
Thinking long term, many investment bank research organizations predict a side effect of the SARS-2 pandemic will be increased citizen and government concern about health and medicine. These organization also predict in the decade to come domestic sourcing for pharmaceutical production will become a national priority.
If today's Kodak gets a head start on this trend they could become a leader in domestic pharmaceutical production.
The stated plan is the Kodak produce 25% of US generic pharmaceutical precursors. This is very significant.
markjwyatt
Well-known
Just saw Kodak on FOX news. They showed pictures of Kodachrome boxes and a lot of other photographic related stuff. This is what people know Kodak for. Anchor said that film was really not there any more... Somewhat true, but hopefully as more people talk about it awareness that film still exists and is there to stick in our cameras grows.
willie_901
Veteran
The stated plan is the Kodak produce 25% of US generic pharmaceutical precursors. This is very significant.
Yes, it is.
Sal Santamaura
Member
What puts this in perspective is Kodak is valued at $300 million.
They just received a $750 million loan.
And yes, this is to produce pharmaceuticals in part to fight the pandemic.
Has there been a malaria pandemic? If not, should anyone believe (i.e. accept in the absence of credible evidence or, in this case, in the face of credible evidence that the opposite is true) and promulgate the mendacious allegation that hydroxychloroquine has any value against COVID-19, they're dangerous Kool-Aide drinkers.Including ingredients for hydroxychloroquine...
Correct. Which is why those complaining about the price of ACROS II ought zip it and smile while buying lots of that outstanding product....I’m beginning to think that that $12/roll of film is the real price of profitability in our new film users world.
agentlossing
Well-known
I bought some stock recently at just over $2 a share, just to see what it would do long-term. Wish I'd bought more!
Zonan
Well-known
What’s Up with This Kodak Deal.
What’s Up with This Kodak Deal.
How does this happen. $$$$#
https://www.epsilontheory.com/the-grifters-chapter-1-kodak/
What’s Up with This Kodak Deal.
How does this happen. $$$$#
https://www.epsilontheory.com/the-grifters-chapter-1-kodak/
willie_901
Veteran
...they're dangerous Kool-Aide drinkers.
The science certainly supports your statement.
At the same time, Kodak will be well-financed to become an on-shore source of critical (as opposed to political) pharmaceutical precursors.
farlymac
PF McFarland
After reading the article, one thing seams quite plausible. No where does it mention that Kodak has plans for building the facility in the USA. Most likely it will be offshore, like somewhere in whatever Asian country coughs up the most to get it built there. And in eight years time $765 million dollars can disappear without anything of substance being actually being produced. Especially when hidden away in some remote backwoods property.
PF
Timmyjoe
Veteran
$765 million grift here, $765 million grift there, pretty soon we're talking about real money.
Best,
-Tim
Best,
-Tim
fdarnell
Well-known
Tennessee Eastman. Advanced Color Dyes. Do your organic chemistry.
kshapero
South Florida Man
Kinda of weird but at the same time we need to have our drug industry not so dependent on China. (No offense to my Chinese friends).
Zonan
Well-known
Tennessee Eastman. Advanced Color Dyes. Do your organic chemistry.
"Eastman Chemical Company is an American company primarily involved in the chemical industry. Once a subsidiary of Kodak, it today is an independent global specialty chemical company that produces a broad range of advanced materials, chemicals and fibers for everyday purposes.Wikipedia"
BillBingham2
Registered User
Before Kodak did the slash and burn thing they did have a division that made blood testing machines and "stuff". They might still have rights to use the "Kodak" name. Very sad, very interesting read, makes me think that the idea of taxing equity (and bond) trades is not a bad idea. Especially if it's a single owner above a reasonable dollar value....
B2
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markjwyatt
Well-known
Specialty Chemicals
https://www.kodak.com/en/advanced-materials/page/specialty-chemicals
"KODAK Specialty Chemicals is a U.S.-based facility with decades of experience in custom synthesis and high-quality production serving diverse markets such as pharmaceuticals (non-GMP), industrial specialties, personal care, electronics, agrochemicals, graphics/security and emerging energy technologies."
They do this in Rochester NY right now. They also (supposedly) have a big order. The loan will allow them to scale-up, improve older unused facilities in Rochester and Minneapolis, and supply 25% of the API (active pharmaceutical ingredients) for generic drugs in the USA. As I am sure you are aware, Kodak was largely a chemical or at least chemistry-based company for most of their existence.
https://www.kodak.com/en/advanced-materials/page/specialty-chemicals
"KODAK Specialty Chemicals is a U.S.-based facility with decades of experience in custom synthesis and high-quality production serving diverse markets such as pharmaceuticals (non-GMP), industrial specialties, personal care, electronics, agrochemicals, graphics/security and emerging energy technologies."
They do this in Rochester NY right now. They also (supposedly) have a big order. The loan will allow them to scale-up, improve older unused facilities in Rochester and Minneapolis, and supply 25% of the API (active pharmaceutical ingredients) for generic drugs in the USA. As I am sure you are aware, Kodak was largely a chemical or at least chemistry-based company for most of their existence.
Ronald M
Veteran
Specialty Chemicals
https://www.kodak.com/en/advanced-materials/page/specialty-chemicals
"KODAK Specialty Chemicals is a U.S.-based facility with decades of experience in custom synthesis and high-quality production serving diverse markets such as pharmaceuticals (non-GMP), industrial specialties, personal care, electronics, agrochemicals, graphics/security and emerging energy technologies."
They do this in Rochester NY right now. They also (supposedly) have a big order. The loan will allow them to scale-up, improve older unused facilities in Rochester and Minneapolis, and supply 25% of the API (active pharmaceutical ingredients) for generic drugs in the USA. As I am sure you are aware, Kodak was largely a chemical or at least chemistry-based company for most of their existence.
So there. Keep mouth shut unless you know details of defense production act
mcfingon
Western Australia
I notice Fujifilm is involved in pharmaceuticals too.
John Mc
https://www.fujifilmhealthcare.com/new-drug-development
John Mc
https://www.fujifilmhealthcare.com/new-drug-development
markjwyatt
Well-known
I notice Fujifilm is involved in pharmaceuticals too.
John Mc
https://www.fujifilmhealthcare.com/new-drug-development
I do not see Kodak rushing to "develop" new drugs. They will supply needed chemical compounds for existing generic drugs only, and I suspect they can be quite competent at that. Fuji has money to invest, but Kodak is going for the Hail Mary pass. I do hope they catch it and make it work. It could be the turnaround of the century. After the turn-around, then things could continue developing.
markjwyatt
Well-known
I bought some stock recently at just over $2 a share, just to see what it would do long-term. Wish I'd bought more!
I am holding a little too. Not enough to retire on for sure, but it could be a nice little boost. This the fourth stinker turned to blinker during this Covid-19 episode. It is amazing the effects of black swans.
markjwyatt
Well-known
Has there been a malaria pandemic? If not, should anyone believe (i.e. accept in the absence of credible evidence or, in this case, in the face of credible evidence that the opposite is true) and promulgate the mendacious allegation that hydroxychloroquine has any value against COVID-19, they're dangerous Kool-Aide drinkers...
That is between doctors and their patients. I do not think HCQ is the big driver here. It is long term national security. It may be a little bonus for Trump.
Beemermark
Veteran
You all know that Kodak has not received a 750 million dollar loan? They have received a "letter of intent" from the government to provide a loan if they can demonstrate the ability to produce pharmaceutical ingredients.
The price rise is speculation. For you that have bought a few shares at $2 I'd suggest you sell it quick and take the profit to buy film.
The price rise is speculation. For you that have bought a few shares at $2 I'd suggest you sell it quick and take the profit to buy film.
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