Leica CL & Elmarit to be announced on 11/21/17
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Timmyjoe
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Just another expensive Point & Shoot. Now if they had made it full frame, or at least made the 18mm an f1.4, I would think they might be on to something. But APC, f2.8 lens, what's to get excited about?
Best,
-Tim
Best,
-Tim
ptpdprinter
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It has a red dot. That will have a lot of people around here running out to get one, or simply extolling its perceived virtues. Just wait a while; they will be for sale used with, invariably, low shutter counts, because they are being bought as objects rather than as tools.
noisycheese
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The CL and the Q are in the $4000 USD ball park, less costly than the used M240s on ebay.
It seems like either would serve well as a backup to a full frame M camera or a small, light one camera solution - if people could stop hating Leica...
It seems like either would serve well as a backup to a full frame M camera or a small, light one camera solution - if people could stop hating Leica...
Archlich
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You can always buy the $2395 Leica Summilux T 35/1.4 to go with the camera! It does look huge on the TL/CL, but weighs just 15 oz.
At least it's not as jaw-droppingly heavy and expensive as the 2.3 lbs, $5295 Summilux SL 50/1.4...
Archlich
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I wonder which ebay listing you were referring to? The used price of the 240 has dipped below the $3000 mark. Many sold on the 'bay for $2500-$2800.
After all, as we all know it, the M10 has destroyed the used market!
Emile de Leon
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CL..$2800...vs. M240...$2800...hmmmm...you decide...
ptpdprinter
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You are expecting rationality perhaps?
Huss
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Hmm, already have an M240, would like an M lens compatible Leica with the same resolution that also has AF, is much smaller, has a much better EVF, higher shutter speeds and warranty...
cz23
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There are quite a few on my craigslist now at $2200 - 2800.
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Huss
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There are a bunch on my craigslist too that are from scammers.
Call up one of those and see for yourself. I have a feeling they are the same people. They keep getting flagged, but reappear a day later.
Emile de Leon
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Warrantee...$2800...yup..! It's Leica..yas betta gets a warrantee..
Huss
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So y u pushing one w/o a warranty? U selling one (perhaps owned by a tuna?)
(akshully the M240 seems to be extremely reliable. the M10 has already had issues w/ it's fancy iso dial)
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Emile de Leon
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Huss..I would probably get an M240 for that kinda bread....but I really would like something lighter weight..
Leica will do it someday..but...in the meanwhile..I'll just use the tuna I already have..
Leica will do it someday..but...in the meanwhile..I'll just use the tuna I already have..
Huss
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A mint, used $3K Leica M240 is the "affordable" FF digi rangefinder everyone has been asking for!
The reason no-one else has made one is because of the existence of 2nd hand Leicas.
The reason no-one else has made one is because of the existence of 2nd hand Leicas.
Emile de Leon
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3K...affordable...who woulda thunk...3K..lol...affordable...??..like that's nothing...
I can buy a lot of other cool stuff for 3K...that will actually hold or gain value...
I can buy a lot of other cool stuff for 3K...that will actually hold or gain value...
Huss
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yeah but we are talking about cameras.
there are a lot of cameras out there from other mfgs that cost more. for some reason it's only when it's a Leica that people have issues with the price.
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Emile de Leon
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Poor Leica..they are soooo...abuuused...lol...
Archlich
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I don't think I can get the logic here...
The only models in for example, Sony's current consumer portfolio that cost more than the CL are the $3198 a7R iii, the $3298 RX1R II and the $4498 a9. Fuji makes a $6499.95 GFX 50S, but...
The CL is not quite a comparable model to these cameras, is it?
ptpdprinter
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It's not about absolute price. The M cameras are unique in that they are rangefinders; there are no alternatives so they cost what they cost. The other cameras that Leica makes are the real issue. It's about features and image quality for the price. Compare the Sony A6500 with 16-50mm at $1298 or the Fuji XE3 with 18-55mm at $1299 with the Leica CL with 18-56mm at $3995, for example. If you are purchasing a tool to make photographs as opposed to a luxury item, what are you really getting for over three times the cost?
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