2WK
Rangefinder User
I'm not sure if this is what I found, but Cameraquest also has good info:
http://www.cameraquest.com/luft.htm
http://www.cameraquest.com/luft.htm
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Decided to update and re-publish an article on true and fake Leica's that was on my previous site, now can be found here:
http://johanniels.com/index.php/camera-gear-articles/61-leica-true-or-fake
Happy reading.
http://johanniels.com/index.php/camera-gear-articles/61-leica-true-or-fake
Happy reading.
David Hughes
David Hughes
Hi,
Just a minor point or two; the IIIc is shown in the Miniature Camera Magazine issue of May 1941 following its capture from U-Boat with some speculation about it being a model IV - which makes sense to me. Anyway, it shows one, with red blinds, beside a IIIb.
And the Zorki's shutter guard was copied from the IIIc, obviously, but the USSR design team had the sense to give it a conventional cable release thread.
This picture shows a Zorki and a '46 model IIIc, note the poor quality chrome and the (later) 3mm flash socket in the usual eye-poking position.
And the lever around the rewind knob to focus the (x1.5 magnification to the) RF is another give away.
Regards, David
PS Added as searches often bring RFF thread up in top position so we might as well complete the proof. Obviously I've left out the "one piece body" details and the combined RF/VF as too complex.
Just a minor point or two; the IIIc is shown in the Miniature Camera Magazine issue of May 1941 following its capture from U-Boat with some speculation about it being a model IV - which makes sense to me. Anyway, it shows one, with red blinds, beside a IIIb.
And the Zorki's shutter guard was copied from the IIIc, obviously, but the USSR design team had the sense to give it a conventional cable release thread.

This picture shows a Zorki and a '46 model IIIc, note the poor quality chrome and the (later) 3mm flash socket in the usual eye-poking position.
And the lever around the rewind knob to focus the (x1.5 magnification to the) RF is another give away.
Regards, David
PS Added as searches often bring RFF thread up in top position so we might as well complete the proof. Obviously I've left out the "one piece body" details and the combined RF/VF as too complex.
wolves3012
Veteran
I can't really claim any great knowledge of Leicas actually, although I know enough to spot the more common fakes. It's the russian stuff I'm more familiar with, hence being fairly confident of the camera's origins.Good catch - you certainy know your Leicas (and your fakes).![]()
Mare0230
Newbie
David Hughes
David Hughes
Hi,
Looks it, same missing part to infinity lock of lens but different body...
Regards, David
PS First one's serial number is for a 1936 IIIa.
Looks it, same missing part to infinity lock of lens but different body...
Regards, David
PS First one's serial number is for a 1936 IIIa.
Wulfthari
Well-known
HELLO and THANK you for ALL your answers.
No, I did not spend the 7000 USD on the camera. Its 6500 EU in fact, because I am from the EU.
SPECIAL thanks goes to wolves3012!!!!
PS: I think I am going to have a little chat with the seller, now that I have the info's you guys gave me!(NO, I do not mean violent actions). Probably he is more ignorant than I am when it comes to Leicas.
Get a nice Zorki S for $100 including CLA!
This one should be same fake?
Yes. I don't think there have always been Luftwaffe IIIas.
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