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"Wehrmacht Heer" matching body and lens

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Vickko said:
Tom, how does one repair dried out and flaking vulcanite?

Vick
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It depends on the camera and what conditiion you find it, if it has 100% intact vulcanite but cracks, you need to stabllize the damaged areas, with special glues and rubber bands or clamps, also have the correctly mixed paint to repaint repaired areas etc. etc.

That guy who owned that camera was a fool, kept opening and closing the camera bottom and each time chunks of vulcanite fell off, it could have been restored, but he messed it all up.
If you find a camera with loose or damaged vulcanite you keep the camera in the case, or just never touch it with your bare hands, use cotton gloves if you have to and get it repaired
(I know someone who will do all the work, I just have to arrange all repairs with him).

You can take $800 to $1,000 off the value of a camera if the vulcanite is damaged and unrepairable or gone and replaced by a cheap covering.

Tom
 
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digitalintrigue said:
"Wehrmacht Heer" matching body and lens

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This camera by the way is a double issue by Leitz that was delivered to the German Forces and then to the Allied Forces. Both the camera and 5cm Elmar lens went to Berlin on 5.12.44 on shipment 9774.
There is a second delivery to a T/4 U.S. Army individual of the camera on 6.3.46.
 
HU: Leica IIIc-K on sale on eBay, bidding started at USD1.00.

Seller is listing the matching Summitar separately...

See it here.

Gonna be fun to see where this ends, it will most definitely be big I guess...

Just for the record, the mandatory byline: no connection to seller.
 
Thanks

I have had vulcanite crumble in my hands. It mystified me as to how to repair it, and I recall some glues actually dissolved it.

Thanks for your reply.

Vick

LeicaTom said:
It depends on the camera and what conditiion you find it, if it has 100% intact vulcanite but cracks, you need to stabllize the damaged areas, with special glues and rubber bands or clamps, also have the correctly mixed paint to repaint repaired areas etc. etc.

That guy who owned that camera was a fool, kept opening and closing the camera bottom and each time chunks of vulcanite fell off, it could have been restored, but he messed it all up.
If you find a camera with loose or damaged vulcanite you keep the camera in the case, or just never touch it with your bare hands, use cotton gloves if you have to and get it repaired
(I know someone who will do all the work, I just have to arrange all repairs with him).

You can take $800 to $1,000 off the value of a camera if the vulcanite is damaged and unrepairable or gone and replaced by a cheap covering.

Tom
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buzzardkid said:
HU: Leica IIIc-K on sale on eBay, bidding started at USD1.00.

Seller is listing the matching Summitar separately...

See it here.

Gonna be fun to see where this ends, it will most definitely be big I guess...

Just for the record, the mandatory byline: no connection to seller.
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I know this camera.....

The seller I have heard has a very bad reputation and that camera was sold on ebay just a month of so ago already and I think by the same person just with another evilbay moniker......?

This camera sold before on ebay just north of $2k............. it's a $1,200 to $1,400 camera (what I'd pay for it, if it had an original lens, which it doesn't...... the seller even tell a lie about the correct lens in another auction ~ eventhough it's a 1947 lens made two years after the camera was issued!!!!!)

Nope I'd keep my hands off of this one!

Best place to find cameras like these is private sales......dealers and evilbay are always overpriced and 2/3 of the cameras that have been auctioned there have been just north of being junk/beater conditions, sadly the collector grade samples of these legendary Leica's have been long gone since 2 or 3 years ago. :(

Tom
 
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iiick

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the camera shows alot of paint wear , the photos are not great .
still for $1 .
vulcanite seems intact and grey - hard to tell with the case on .
a thousand dollar item all day --- perhaps a bit more .
 
That's NOT a surprise that camera sold again, but this time for over $3k! even in that EX condition! :eek: some folks are pretty crazy for that Grey paint despite the less than perfect condition!

Tom
 
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hello, my leica IIIc have problem with rangefinder view , this is very un-clearly , and so hard to see couple-subject to focus.... anyone give me some advice ?
 
This matching numbers lens to camera US Army Signal Corps Leica IIIC K Grey sold this past weekend.............I was not in the bidding, I regret I didn't get an early bid in on this one.

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Not quite EX++ but in really great shape, with all the correct bells and whistles, it even had residue from original (very rare) orange ink US Army Signal Corps inventory stamps on the top plate (may have been an ex-DRMO 1950's US Army auction camera) ~ also had a somewhat uncommon 1945 Elmar f3.5/50 issued in "feet" which was the norm for the offically used cameras and was a custom special order request for the US Army use.
(normal production of "feet" lenses didn't start back up untill the end of 1946, beginning of 1947 with once again the start of worldwide export cameras)

The only other thing I noticed about the camera is that the engravings on the top plate were freshened up (which seems to be the case on many surviving Grey K's) and the original Leitz lug rings were missing, other than that an amazingly fine preserved and somewhat rarer original issued 1945 USASC IIIC K Grey from a well cared for private collection.

And it was a steal at just a little over $3k in the final bidding :)

Enjoy!

Tom
 
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There's a cool item soon to be sold at the Westlicht Auction a unused Leica IIIC RLM Grey painted top plate ca. 1942 ~ still wondering if I'm going to bid on this one?
*The paint is original, but sadly they filled the top plate engravings with new white paint, would have been nicer if they just would had let it alone like the rewind and diopter arrows are in the original woodsmetal*

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There's also this very interesting Grey Paint Hektor 135mm lens on this W.H. (German Army) camera the lens is pretty rare and this one is in good condition. :D
*I bought a Mint Minus condition one about 2 years ago, that was formally owned by an OSS agent, the lens has since gone, but I will feature it on my website together with my 1943 camera*

Enjoy!
 
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IIIcK 389260 on Ebay: Item no. 160559107861

Looks like it's been repainted

Last week I came across a WW2 relic on Ebay, a Leica base plate with an additional bit on the front that had a 3/8th nut that goes into the underside of the 135mm lens. It was marked 'heer'. Probably a special base to use with a military tripod. Can't find the link now though.
 
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IIIcK 389260 on Ebay: Item no. 160559107861

Looks like it's been repainted

Last week I came across a WW2 relic on Ebay, a Leica base plate with an additional bit on the front that had a 3/8th nut that goes into the underside of the 135mm lens. It was marked 'heer'. Probably a special base to use with a military tripod. Can't find the link now though.
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That camera is 100% original, also has very rare Drk Red K on shutter, it's been for sale on Evilbay now for almost 2.5 years, grossly overpriced (the lens is un-matching, not original to the body). *It has nice "wartime" patina and some paint bubbling common to the cameras that were well used* ~ just too bad they are asking way too much for it, the camera will NEVER sell.

That lens cradle was original WW2 for Leica, dug up from under the ground in very poor condition, had some reserve price, I say it was worth maybe $50/$75 in the condition it was in, (some dealer paid over $500 for it as well as some smashed parts that once were a 135 Hektor for $150, just crazy amounts of money for something dug out of the ground) ~ it was also missing alot of parts, just the base was there, doubtful if more than 20 of them are still left that are 100% complete, I don't know the Leitz Code?

Tom
 
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