f6andBthere
Well-known
Ashwin ... the MM really makes that C Sonnar sing!
This terrific.
This terrific.
ashwinrao1
Ashwin Rao
Thanks Dirk and f6andBthere! The Sonnar does exceptionally well on the MM's sensor, much like many older lens designs...I'm suspect it's the optics, coatings, rendering/fall off, lower contrast, and pleasing OOF, but I have pretty much gone to using modern glass on the M9 and older lenses on the MM....
Now if I could just nab a v1 35 'cron to try on this body...
Now if I could just nab a v1 35 'cron to try on this body...
icebear
Veteran
Ashwin,
thanks for your latest pictures. Really stunning, especially the Sonar. Also the v2 90. I think as long as the plane of focus matches the sensor spot on every lens will truely shine. The Monochrom shows the full potential of the lens. A lower contrast might be pleasing for certain occasions, especially for portraits. Again great work.
thanks for your latest pictures. Really stunning, especially the Sonar. Also the v2 90. I think as long as the plane of focus matches the sensor spot on every lens will truely shine. The Monochrom shows the full potential of the lens. A lower contrast might be pleasing for certain occasions, especially for portraits. Again great work.
ashwinrao1
Ashwin Rao
Ashwin,
thanks for your latest pictures. Really stunning, especially the Sonar. Also the v2 90. I think as long as the plane of focus matches the sensor spot on every lens will truely shine. The Monochrom shows the full potential of the lens. A lower contrast might be pleasing for certain occasions, especially for portraits. Again great work.
Thanks, Klaus....The Sonnar does very very well on the MM. I have just started using it on the MM, and I am very pleased. I agree that the MM's sensor, when properly matched, should "expose" each lens' potential for resolving detail and detail. I have found that modern glass tends to be more contrasty, though, and at this time I prefer how asph glass renders on the M9 over the MM (though this is entirely a personal preference and subject to change
Speaking of modern glass, here's one that I enjoyed from the current Noctilux:

menos
Veteran
…also you probably have a m9 too… so why dont you do an absolute comparison of m9 vs mm on full resolution raw side by side
Because such a comparison is absolutely meaningless.
The difference between the M9 and MM for B&W photographs can be brought down very exclusively and simple to only technical terms, which have been named in many places all over the web already.
The MM output is exactly that, what a photographer makes out of the files from the MM.
It is not, that the MM has a characteristic look all by it's own magic.
It technically only allows here and there more latitude to the photographer, who chooses to use it over an M9.
A few bullet points from me:
- MM - higher ISO sensitivity (obviously) with truly deeper usability into the night, offering the use of more compact, lighter, slower glass than ever before with a Leica M.
- slightly higher acuity on pixel level over the M9 (I would say from my perception, we are finally back to the fantastic acuity, the M8 sensor gave us - the M9 by comparison is mushy)
- different weighting in tonality over the range than the M8 + M9 sensors (which are by them selves very different), giving the perception of "flat files" without processing them, but allows much heavier midrange tones
Other peoples files really didn't teach me anything, I had to learn about the MM - actually trying one and shooting it with the experience of M8 and M9 files before really opens your eyes.
You can tool the MM much different than a M9, you can stop down, you must expose for highlights, while shadow detail is seemingly infinity
The MM provides a lot more freedom in shooting but also demands a lot more work in post processing (the equivalent of printing from your negs - not as many wrongfully state "the additional photoshopping of digital photographs").
The MM is really not a camera for finished pictures out of a camera - it is the film body of digital bodies with negatives, that are difficult to print and demand maximum attention to the printer.
I didn't find my "standard receipt" for the Mono files yet but am still in play mode.
… oh and since when do people have to be rich to afford this or that camera - it's all about priorities. I would wager, that many MM shooters prefer to wear worn boots and eat cheap food to get that extra bit of freedom in their photography over showing off some bling to friends …


Jager
Established
… oh and since when do people have to be rich to afford this or that camera - it's all about priorities. I would wager, that many MM shooters prefer to wear worn boots and eat cheap food to get that extra bit of freedom in their photography over showing off some bling to friends …
Amen......
rickp
Well-known
icebear
Veteran
first outing using a b&w 092 IR filter. focus bracketing is somewhere between good idea and necessity, but the IR effect with the remaining leaves is interesting. sfx graduated ND effect nr. 014.
greetings from hamburg
rick
Hi Rick,
thanks for joining the MM thread with pictures.
Can you please try to post your shot a little bigger, like min. 600 short side. The post here is too small to judge it.
rickp
Well-known
hi klaus
since i'm the only one left in the world without a flickr or other image hosting account, i have to post 600 pixel photos directly. they show up as thumbnails, and those interested have to click on the thumbnail to get the FULL 600 px.
i don't post photos here very often because of this. :-(( rick
since i'm the only one left in the world without a flickr or other image hosting account, i have to post 600 pixel photos directly. they show up as thumbnails, and those interested have to click on the thumbnail to get the FULL 600 px.
i don't post photos here very often because of this. :-(( rick
Rick, I've applied a trick to get a larger copy of your pic inserted in your post. Clicking on your thumbnail displayed the larger copy... I Copied the URL of the window, went back to your post, chose Edit, then Advanced, opened a new browser window and pasted in the URL to view your pic full size, positioned the window beside your post edit window and just dragged the pic over into the post. Save. You could do this too, try it. 
icebear
Veteran
hi klaus
since i'm the only one left in the world without a flickr or other image hosting account, i have to post 600 pixel photos directly. they show up as thumbnails, and those interested have to click on the thumbnail to get the FULL 600 px.
i don't post photos here very often because of this. :-(( rick
Hi Rick,
if you first post your picture in your personal gallery, you can upload max 200kB. After the upload is completed you can copy it from there and insert it into your post in a specific thread, that's how I do it - no flickr account either
Nice to have you back with photos on this thread Kristian.
+1 , were have you been Kristian ? Great shot, thanks for posting.
colonel
Established
jcrutcher
Veteran
Woo-Hoo!!!! My MM was delivered today! I've followed this thread in anticipation and have learned a considerable amount. Now I'll try to put it to use, please give me your feedback so I can continue to improve.
Thanks, Jim
Thanks, Jim
Ron (Netherlands)
Well-known
Monochrom + 50mm Summilux ASPH
www.haroldmiller.me
Great shot, however if I didn't knew it was shot with the monochrome, I would get the impression it was an oversharpened jpeg
menos
Veteran
Congrats Jim …*and let the photos come in …
jcrutcher
Veteran
Ok I was so excited to try out my MM I didn't wait until after work. This is a remington in my office. I can only get better from here!
5000 ISO, 1/1500, F2.0 35mm summicron ASPH

L1000005.jpg by rootbeer2004, on Flickr
5000 ISO, 1/1500, F2.0 35mm summicron ASPH

L1000005.jpg by rootbeer2004, on Flickr
icebear
Veteran
Congrats Jim …*and let the photos come in …
+1 get out there and shoot, show us some at f 0.95 with the MM
Vince Lupo
Whatever
Hopefully I'll be joining you guys soon -- my Monochrom should be here in just over a week or so!
icebear
Veteran
Hopefully I'll be joining you guys soon -- my Monochrom should be here in just over a week or so!
Cool, the more the merrier
rickp
Well-known
Rick, I've applied a trick to get a larger copy of your pic inserted in your post. Clicking on your thumbnail displayed the larger copy... I Copied the URL of the window, went back to your post, chose Edit, then Advanced, opened a new browser window and pasted in the URL to view your pic full size, positioned the window beside your post edit window and just dragged the pic over into the post. Save. You could do this too, try it.![]()
thank you, doug. tricky but effective. i'll do it your way next time.
regards
rick
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