Leica Minolta CL meter adjustment notes

dreilly

Chillin' in Geneva
Local time
10:14 PM
Joined
Dec 25, 2004
Messages
1,045
Location
The Finger Lakes Region of New York State
I found a thread on another forum detailing how to adjust the CL's meter to either a new battery type or the changing response of an aging cds cell. It's a bit tedious (lots of turning, checking, turning again) but I have to report it does work.

I got a bargain basement Leitz Minolta CL with a wonky, but functioning meter, and used this procedure to convert the meter to a silver oxide 1.55v standard and bring it back to reasonable accuracy. Now, the meter agrees with my Gossen Super Pilot on uniform test fields (walls/paper of a certain brighness, etc). In use, it agrees within about 1 stop with the Super Pilot...which might be caused by the fact that the Pilot is an averaging meter with a wider field of measurement than the CL's semi-spot field.

I wanted to copy the text of this procedure here for the RFF record:

The original text I found at http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00C1kg

By the way, do this at your camera's risk. I think if you're careful at worst you'll make a wonky meter more wonky.
-------------------------------------

Some basics on CdS-lightmetering

The CL's lightmeter uses a CdS-photoresistor (LDR 3D light dependent resistor). The LDR's resistance is strongly dependent on the intensity of light which hits it's surface. The relationship is: the more intensive the light is, the lower the resistance becomes. In a double logarithmic scale the LDR's characteristic is rather a straight line.

With the help of a battery and some additional resistors with constant values the LDR's changing resistance is converted into a changing voltage which is measured with a voltmeter. The voltmeter's needle is what you see in your finder.

The energy to operate the voltmeter is delivered by the battery. Therefore the deflection of the voltmeter is dependent on the voltage of the battery.

Mercury and silver-oxide batteries have slightly different voltages.

LDR's have some unwanted features:

* They are not only light dependent but also temperature dependent. This effect is compensated in the electronic circuit described above.
* Their response to a change of the intensity of light is very slow. Especially for very low light it may take seconds until the LDR settles to it's final value. So be patient measuring in dim light.
* And last: LDRs change their characteristic over time. And that's the reason why older lightmeters must be calibrated from time to time.

Finding the circuit inside the CL

The circuitry which converts the LDR's signal to the proper setting of the lightmeter's needle is right to the film cartridge. Take the backcover of the CL away and hold the camera in a way that you would look on the eyelets of the straps. Then you should see a black aluminium foil at the side of the groove where the film cartridge normally fits in. This foil is self adhesive and sticks to the case. Remove it.

Beneath this foil you will see 4 little holes. With a little (electronic) screwdiver one can turn trimming resistors through this holes.

The holes and the corresponding trimmers are numbered by Leica as follows:

* The one nearest to the top of the camera is R3. If you still hold the camera as described above it is the most left one.
* The next ones are R4, R5 and R6. So from top to bottom (or left to right) you have the order R3, R4, R5, R6. By the way: R comes from Resistor.

Trimming procedure

1. Put in a new battery. After calibration you must always use this type of battery (I don't mean the maker but whether it's mercury or silver-oxide).
2. Set the film sensitivity dial to 17 DIN (approx. 50 ASA).
3. Set the shutter dial to 1/1000s.
4. Point the camera to you slide screen and light it with a very bright light source. Use a good, calibrated lightmeter or another camera you trust, point it to the screen, read the aperture at 17DIN, 1/1000s and set the CL's aperture to the same value. You can use whatever lens you want. Now the needle in the finder must correspond with the notch of the lightmeter. If not, turn R3 clock- or counterclockwise until it does. Of course you must turn on the CL's lightmeter by pulling the transport lever.
5. Set the shutter dial to 1/30s. Measure again with your second lightmeter and transfer the aperture. Turn R4 until the needle is OK.
6. The setting of R4 has an influence on the setting of R3. So you must repeat the last to steps until the needle corresponds with the notch at 1/1000s and 1/30s.
7. Set the shutter dial to 1/2s. Again, estimate the aperture at 17DIN, 1/2s, transfer it to the CL's lens and now turn R5 until the needle is in coincidence with the notch. Turning R5 has an influence on the setting of R3 and R4. So you must repeat the preceding procedures until you have coincidence in all of the 3 cases.
8. Leica announces that this calibration will give you a tolerance of 2 DIN (film sensitivity).
9. A hint: in the original Leica procedure a special calibrated light source with variable intensity recommended. In my procedure this is substituted by a screen, any lightsource and a second lightmeter. So your calibration will not be better than the lightmeter which you use as a reference. It may happen that from 1/1000s to 1/2s you may not obtain apertures which you can set on the CL's lens. In that case you can change the intensity of your lightsource. E.g. at 1/1000 use your slide projector, at 1/2s use a 25W lamp at an appropriate distance to light the screen. Just take care that the screen is lit well-balanced. Or at least use the same spot on the screen to measure with the reference lightmeter and the CL.
10. Last step: Set the shutter dial as to measure battery power, press the battery measuring button and set R6 until the needle is in the middle of the notch. This trimming has no effect on the lightmeter, it just calibrates the battery measurement.
 
dreilly said:
By the way, do this at your camera's risk. I think if you're careful at worst you'll make a wonky meter more wonky.

Let me simply add that these instructions are why my CL will need to have a visit to DAG to get the meter right one of these days... :bang: :bang: :bang:

William
 
Battery recalibration. Now it needs both... My problem was not having an adequate light source to base the calibration on.

William
 
William,
I used two light sources, one for the upper and middle range, and a lower light source (actually, my black wool beret placed over my target, which was a manilla folder on a desk with a desk lamp over it. Sophisticated stuff. It worked out for me.

But I agree with your warning: if you're just doing it for the battery recalibartion perhaps the wein cell with the washer you can reuse with hearing-aid batteries is the better bet.

If you have a totally wonked out meter then you really have nothing to loose. I don't think you can really harm the meter as long as you are gentle. The worst that can happen is an even more wonked out meter.
 
Doug, this is very interesting. Thanks for posting it! I've never seen instructions on (re)calibration before; Sherry Krauter reset mine for 1.5v when I sent it to her for repair this spring.

I strongly suspect the deviation of the CL from your Gossen readings in use is, indeed, because of the different metering fields. (You can gauge the size of the metering field by aiming at a small, bright light. The viewfinder really does show it quite accurately on my CL.)

Interesting that R6 is for setting the battery-check level. I wonder if it changes anything else? Sherry K. suggested, as I recall, that I should make a mental note of the position of the meter-indicator with a full battery, and I took that to mean that it would not be at quite the same place as it was when the meter was calibrated for a mercury cell. I don't have the camera with me right now but I think it's a bit above the little black marker with a new silver cell. If anyone would know how to adjust that it would be Sherry (or DAG), so I wonder if that adjustment has other side effects?

Happy last-shopping-week-before Christmas!

-- Michael
 
Michael,
I followed the instructions and recalibrated r6--I did not notice any change in my previous settings and the meter needle reads in the middle for a fresh silver oxide button.

If it had changed the meter values, I would have been pissed! It was a pain in the butt going back and forth all the time and I was never totally confident in the ordering. For example, r5 seemed to effect r3 more than r4...when r4 was on target r5 didn't have any effect on it. I gave up on the systematic approach and just started going back and forth from r3 to r5. It finally got *close*. Not exactly spot on, which I took to mean the cds cell might be getting less linear with age...
 
Another thing to remember when you're doing this sort of DIY tinkering is that a CdS meter cell has a different spectral response from that of the silicon cells used in modern handheld light meters.

So if you're trying to make your settings by comparing your CL's reading to that of, say, a late-model Gossen, Sekonic or Minolta handheld meter, you may find that even after you've got the CL set to match under tungsten light (following the slide projector suggestion in the original directions) it won't quite match under daylight, fluorescents, etc.

Also, if you follow the suggestion in the directions and substitute a low-wattage bulb for the lower-light readings, you'll also induce inaccuracy because the low-wattage bulb's color temperature will be different from the high-wattage bulb you used for the high-light setting.

Sure, you probably can get it close enough to live with (especially for b&w or color neg shooting) but you also can really screw it up!

Good repair shops use special calibrated light boxes for setting meters; these are quite expensive, and now you know why!
 
jlw,
thanks for that information--I didn't even think of color temperature or types of light. I was using an incandescent bulb, but at least it was the same bulb for each range--just different reflective materials.

I figured that the old Super Pilot with its cds cell was a good match for the age of the CL meter.
 
A bump... I can't seem to get the "foil" off... mine just looks like a flat-black panel with no obvious way to get it up, and I'm scratching the heck out of the inside of my CL trying... anyone have a picture?
 
Hi All,

New here. Thought it important to capture learning for the community on this calibration process as I this above was extraordinarily value to me in my own process - but I learnt a few things along the way.

Battery: I used the polar bear conversion kit that fits and tweaks modern 1.5 batteries into the 1.35v format. PX625 Adapter Pro (Fits PX13, H-D, MR-9, E-625N, EPX625, 625, MRB625)
Access: the glue used on the original foil (later plastic) was insane. Basically a mix of brown sludge and cement. I used a blade to wedge open and slowly put an ear bud into the cracks with turps and white spirit. Then wedged open with match sticks gradually so as not to scratch. Eventually it peeled off - but note that you have to take the bottom plate off because it covers the foil In doing so, watch out not to lose the tiny screws and tabs, especially noting the long screw has a spacer underneath it that could easily skip away. I took me AGES to scrub all the gunk off the calibration panel.
Light source: I used an adjustable LED screen my wife had lying around. Much better than messing around with flickering lamps etc. and keeping consistency from abient stray light (although the focus is more spot metering on the Leica). MAke sure your meter is set to 'spot' as I got quite different readings from other metering methods (zone or matrix metering)
Matching the 1/1000 and 1/30 metering: I adjusted the LED display so it gave perfect expose at both F2.8 :1/1000 and F16 : 1/30. I used my Nikon DSLR to ensure consistency. I kinda gave up on the 1/2s setting for reasons i'll explain
Patience and oddities: my R3 was erratic in response. There is clearly a dark art (if you have no multimeter for measuring and don't take the whole camera apart).
The first issue I found is that R3 sometimes 'skips' erratically and 'zips' from one extreme to another. Could have been an earthing issue - so I gather I pressed lightly on the screw. Maybe a static free screwdriver would be better?
I also found I had to be very careful in swapping between R3 and R4. as per comment above, I found R5 to be highly influential, and I advise against balancing R3 and R4 before moving to R5. They are all in cahoots, and the curvature or response level of each resistor are different I think. I worked backwards if R3 was under-exposed (note this is when needle at the top - counter intuitively the needle is the other way we might expect). So I would drop from 1/1000 on the CL, to 500, or 250 - or until when the needle actually responded. Then I would tweak the screw to get it 1/500 balance, then switch to 1/1000. then move onto R4, then back to R3 (which would often jump to way underexposed again when tweaking R4). At this point I would often incur the power of the R5 to bring R3 back into proper exposure. So basically its a chaotic blxxdy nightmare. The screws are 'infinite' but I found there was a 'hot zone' where they would react and have impact, and then a big 'deadzone' where it was effectively blind luck until the needle would move again. I would often re-check with the DSLR meter as well.
R5: I basically used 1/4 instead of 1/2 for the final setting, but I was loathe to go this far because 1. R5 usually screwed everything up and I had to start from scratch again., and 2. I hardly ever shoot below 1/30 or 1/15 due to motion shake. I hope you have better luck.
R6: I found this to have no effect whatsoever on R3-R5. I turned this systematically on B setting until eventually the needle jumped up to mid point. For me, this happened quite quickly, no slow incremental rise. It was either on or off.
Pay attention! I often found myself bumping the winding lever back into 'off position' - while unknowingly 'calibrating' - messing everything up. Keep track of your settings too - easy to forget or bump a stop on the aperture.
film secure: put some low-tack tape on the film secure door otherwise it will flap about and annoy

Rather then re-install the foil, I put some electric tape on the edge in case one day I need to re-do it. God forbid.

If anyone has better insights or explanations to any of this please let me know for the sake of my own sanity if I ever have to do it again. It might be that mine has a loose wire or grounding issue or something like that.
 
Back
Top Bottom