markk
Member
iic conversion
iic conversion
Finally some photos of my converted sharkskin 11c...
Kind of cool that the "Willoughby's" dealer decal inside...A large dealer from New York. Also can anyone shed any light on the little piece of tape/label on the base plate? I am imagining it to be some kind of date code for repair or maintenance....I am still trying to determine what this actually has been converted to......Any thoughts would be appreciated! Thanks! Mark
iic conversion
Finally some photos of my converted sharkskin 11c...
Kind of cool that the "Willoughby's" dealer decal inside...A large dealer from New York. Also can anyone shed any light on the little piece of tape/label on the base plate? I am imagining it to be some kind of date code for repair or maintenance....I am still trying to determine what this actually has been converted to......Any thoughts would be appreciated! Thanks! Mark
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Luddite Frank
Well-known
Not sure what the purists would call it...
Some would say " II-c / sync added "...
Some might say "II-c converted to -f Black Dial".
I would be in the second camp, as the film-wind knob has been updated with the "reminder windows"... -c models had a solid-top knob.
The "two-screw shoe" was a feature of the II-c and II-f.
And I noticed your shutter speeds dial goes to 1/1000 ? If it truly has a 1/1000 setting ( dial will have a detent and sit a little higher ), this would put it in -f territory. There were some Red Dial -fs with 1/1000 top shutter speed.
Looking camera.
LF
Some would say " II-c / sync added "...
Some might say "II-c converted to -f Black Dial".
I would be in the second camp, as the film-wind knob has been updated with the "reminder windows"... -c models had a solid-top knob.
The "two-screw shoe" was a feature of the II-c and II-f.
And I noticed your shutter speeds dial goes to 1/1000 ? If it truly has a 1/1000 setting ( dial will have a detent and sit a little higher ), this would put it in -f territory. There were some Red Dial -fs with 1/1000 top shutter speed.
Looking camera.
LF
Dralowid
Michael
I'd agree in that the camera has been converted to a spec that matches a given model, ie it is a IIf now.
In my humble opinion 'syn' is part of the nomenclature when the above is not the case, ie when a camera like a II or a III (which has the v/f and r/f windows far apart, is synchronised by the factory making a model that never existed from new.
Go back to around the beginning of this thread and you'll find the factory price list and options.
Someone will surely find an exception that destroys this theory.
In my humble opinion 'syn' is part of the nomenclature when the above is not the case, ie when a camera like a II or a III (which has the v/f and r/f windows far apart, is synchronised by the factory making a model that never existed from new.
Go back to around the beginning of this thread and you'll find the factory price list and options.
Someone will surely find an exception that destroys this theory.
markk
Member
Thank you Mike and Frank! (Frank, yes the 1000 speed is legit...it functions exactly how you describe)
lxmike
M2 fan.
IIIC/IIIFBDST with CV25/4
there is one camera l should never have let get away
andrewtc4
Newbie
I picked this up expecting a normal IIIa but don't know much about it, Is there away to tell when it was converted?
It did come with a coated Summar that I gave to a friend and "upgraded" to a Summicron but ended up returning it due to internal cleaning marks, the interesting parts of it are misspent on me.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wch43xuBh9Cy2-EfgKKaZqQrOwF3IACr
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1g6TPvd-f-h8EsoeDCBrBaFBFPvblqjv0
It did come with a coated Summar that I gave to a friend and "upgraded" to a Summicron but ended up returning it due to internal cleaning marks, the interesting parts of it are misspent on me.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wch43xuBh9Cy2-EfgKKaZqQrOwF3IACr
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1g6TPvd-f-h8EsoeDCBrBaFBFPvblqjv0
analoged
Well-known
I picked this up expecting a normal IIIa but don't know much about it, Is there away to tell when it was converted?
It did come with a coated Summar that I gave to a friend and "upgraded" to a Summicron but ended up returning it due to internal cleaning marks, the interesting parts of it are misspent on me.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wch43xuBh9Cy2-EfgKKaZqQrOwF3IACr
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1g6TPvd-f-h8EsoeDCBrBaFBFPvblqjv0
Its a post war conversion, 1950's. Lens was probably coated along with it, could be a matching pair purchased together. Would be a shame to separate them!
JB-Dancer
Established
Thank you, Michael! But I think all the later conversions have the rangefinder of the III. I can be wrong, of course.
More special is the fact that my camera has no synch. Usually the pre-war cameras were converted in the post-war era only to get a synchronisation installed.
Erik.

I have recently acquired this early post-war Leica II conversion(no synch).
It is an early Leica II and has had the following conversion.
1) Changed from Black & Nickel to Black & Chrome.
2)New body shell with chrome lugs and larger base plate locating pin.
3)Top changed to Leica III type with diopter adjustment and magnified rangefinder of a Leica III.
4) Serial No changed from No. to Nr.
5) Top is Leica III type with D.R.P engraving with serial No changed from No. to Nr.
6) shutter release has a black dot.
JB-Dancer
Established
New body shell with chrome lugs and large chrome base plate locating pin.

Erik van Straten
Veteran
Great camera, J B Dancer! These conversions with the old syle logo are rare. Great user with the Leica III rangefinder, no synch and strap lugs.
I have one with the same specs but with the new engraving. I prefer this one with the very pretty engravings in the old style.
Beautiful condition. Congratulations!
You can order a shutter guard from Nobu: https://www.ebay.de/str/nobbysparrow
Erik.
I have one with the same specs but with the new engraving. I prefer this one with the very pretty engravings in the old style.
Beautiful condition. Congratulations!
You can order a shutter guard from Nobu: https://www.ebay.de/str/nobbysparrow
Erik.
Dralowid
Michael
The engraving makes me wonder whether this started life as a II was converted to a III pre war and converted back to a II post war.
But why?!
Nice camera.
But why?!
Nice camera.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
Again, Michael knows to ask the right questions. The camera may have been badly damaged. To install also a flash would have been more expensive or the camera was intended for specific use (on microscopes or reproduction apparatus).
It seems that in the post-war era only shells for III's were available as a spare.
Is the knob of the reverse lever nickel or chrome? On mine the reverse lever is all chrome. Could be that the old one is still there.
Erik.
It seems that in the post-war era only shells for III's were available as a spare.
Is the knob of the reverse lever nickel or chrome? On mine the reverse lever is all chrome. Could be that the old one is still there.
Erik.
JB-Dancer
Established
Hello Erik & Michael,
Many thanks,the reverse lever is chrome fixing screw,with a chrome knob on a black lever.
Many thanks,the reverse lever is chrome fixing screw,with a chrome knob on a black lever.
Dralowid
Michael
Dralowid
Michael
JB-Dancer
Established
Many thanks Erik, I will order one for the camera.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
Shortly after the war Leitz found in their warehouses a stock of unsold Summars 50mm f/2. They decided to coat these lenses and sell them. No coating existed before the war. This is one of the reasons collectors sometimes find coated Summars that look relatively new. Usually these are chrome lenses, but sometimes also nickel ones turn up.
Erik.
Erik.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
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