GeroV
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Hello all. I was here on RFF for a bit last winter when I had an Xpan (unfortunately had to let that go as I didn't have the time to dedicate to proper film scanning etc), and now I'm back as I'll hopefully have my new M4-P in my hands this evening when I get home. I already got a CV 50 1.5 Nokton, and am looking for a wider lens in the 21-35 range that won't force me to take out another five mortgages
I've also noted the Leitz 35 3.5 Summaron - anyone with one of those care to chime in - I've read some nice things about it and would love to put some Leica glass on the M4-P as well as the lovely nokton, if possible. However, if the color skopar is superior in IQ, then I'll go that route.
thanks.
Any suggestions are welcome. thanks, and I hope to be active here once I start getting my film developed and scanned.
I've also noted the Leitz 35 3.5 Summaron - anyone with one of those care to chime in - I've read some nice things about it and would love to put some Leica glass on the M4-P as well as the lovely nokton, if possible. However, if the color skopar is superior in IQ, then I'll go that route.
thanks.
Any suggestions are welcome. thanks, and I hope to be active here once I start getting my film developed and scanned.
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ferider
Veteran
Welcome back. I suggest you stay with CV, the 28/3.5 and 28/1.9 are outstanding lenses, IMO. Decide between the two depending on the speed/size requirements you have. 28 is perfect for the M4P due to the frameline set.
Cheers,
Roland.
Cheers,
Roland.
venchka
Veteran
C/V 21/?.?
C/V 28/1.9
C/V 35/1.7
C/V 35/1.4 EDIT: Should be 35/1.2
You can spend more, but you may not get any better.
YMMV
C/V 28/1.9
C/V 35/1.7
C/V 35/1.4 EDIT: Should be 35/1.2
You can spend more, but you may not get any better.
YMMV
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venchka
Veteran
Roland beat me to it by a nano second or three.
What he said.
What he said.
ferider
Veteran
It doesn't get much more compact than this:
Cheers,
Roland.

Cheers,
Roland.
dpetrzelka
Well-known
Depends how wide you want to go- and your viewing preference.
Do you favor speed or small size?
I also have an M4-P, and while it does have 28mm framelines, they are pretty far out there, and if you have glasses it may be tough to see. For that reason, if you don't need more width, I'd recommend a 35.
I have a CV 35/2.5 Color Skopar - its size is unbelievably small, great for carrying in your pocket. I have only shot a few frames with it so far- but it looks to have great contrast, and is plenty sharp. Great price, even when new.
If you want to go wider the 25/4 Skopar gets rave reviews from people who actually own them (others seem skeptical about it being non range findr coupled)- with it you use a separate view finder, or shoot from the hip using zone focusing, with the aide of click stops on the aperature ring. (I just bought one, and should have it in a few days- I'll report back after a couple rolls)
Those are the really budget conscious options- you can always spend more later.
Do you favor speed or small size?
I also have an M4-P, and while it does have 28mm framelines, they are pretty far out there, and if you have glasses it may be tough to see. For that reason, if you don't need more width, I'd recommend a 35.
I have a CV 35/2.5 Color Skopar - its size is unbelievably small, great for carrying in your pocket. I have only shot a few frames with it so far- but it looks to have great contrast, and is plenty sharp. Great price, even when new.
If you want to go wider the 25/4 Skopar gets rave reviews from people who actually own them (others seem skeptical about it being non range findr coupled)- with it you use a separate view finder, or shoot from the hip using zone focusing, with the aide of click stops on the aperature ring. (I just bought one, and should have it in a few days- I'll report back after a couple rolls)
Those are the really budget conscious options- you can always spend more later.
R
Robert
Guest
Ferider, that's a lovely camera
ferider
Veteran
Thanks Robert !
Roland.
Roland.
GeroV
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ferider said:Welcome back. I suggest you stay with CV, the 28/3.5 and 28/1.9 are outstanding lenses, IMO. Decide between the two depending on the speed/size requirements you have. 28 is perfect for the M4P due to the frameline set.
Cheers,
Roland.
Roland,
thanks very much for the advice - I think I like the 28/3.5 for the compact size and will take a closer look at it.
Gero
GeroV
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venchka said:Roland beat me to it by a nano second or three.
What he said.
Wayne,
thanks for both your replies. I'm looking at the 28 3.5, but also the 21 4.0. Just have to decide how wide I want to go...
Gero
GeroV
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ferider said:It doesn't get much more compact than this:
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Cheers,
Roland.
Roland,
i used to have a snake that looked just like that. Come to think of it, where the hell did it go. Wait a minute
GeroV
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dpetrzelka said:Depends how wide you want to go- and your viewing preference.
Do you favor speed or small size?
I also have an M4-P, and while it does have 28mm framelines, they are pretty far out there, and if you have glasses it may be tough to see. For that reason, if you don't need more width, I'd recommend a 35.
I have a CV 35/2.5 Color Skopar - its size is unbelievably small, great for carrying in your pocket. I have only shot a few frames with it so far- but it looks to have great contrast, and is plenty sharp. Great price, even when new.
If you want to go wider the 25/4 Skopar gets rave reviews from people who actually own them (others seem skeptical about it being non range findr coupled)- with it you use a separate view finder, or shoot from the hip using zone focusing, with the aide of click stops on the aperature ring. (I just bought one, and should have it in a few days- I'll report back after a couple rolls)
Those are the really budget conscious options- you can always spend more later.
D,
thanks very much for your thoughtful comments. The question is how wide is wide enough
ferider
Veteran
GeroV said:Roland,
i used to have a snake that looked just like that. Come to think of it, where the hell did it go. Wait a minute![]()
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I had both CV 15 and 21 lenses, and they are both good. What makes the 28/3.5 so useful is that no external finder is required. It is also smaller than the other lenses.
Here is a photo I took with this combo (Fuji Reala):

Strong contrast like all Color Skopars.
Enjoy shopping. Cheers,
Roland.
ampguy
Veteran
I'd agree with most of the replies here on the 28/3.5. I never went with the Ultron 28/1.9 which is much faster as I already knew from my experiences with the Ultron 35/1.7 that those speeds come with major size penalties if you're looking for a small carry everywhere kit.
The 28/3.5 color skopar has visible vignetting on the RD1 as explained by Sean Reid and other reviewers, but I understand it can be fixed some in pp, or in my case, hasn't bothered me yet, but is visible.
The 28/3.5 color skopar has visible vignetting on the RD1 as explained by Sean Reid and other reviewers, but I understand it can be fixed some in pp, or in my case, hasn't bothered me yet, but is visible.
GeroV
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ferider said:must have been killed by GAS ....
I had both CV 15 and 21 lenses, and they are both good. What makes the 28/3.5 so useful is that no external finder is required. It is also smaller than the other lenses.
Here is a photo I took with this combo (Fuji Reala):
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Strong contrast like all Color Skopars.
Enjoy shopping. Cheers,
Roland.
Beautiful shot Roland. what has been your experience with vignetting with this lens?
and can I have what is left of my snake back please?
ferider
Veteran
Thank you Gerov.
I never had a problem with vignetting. I read Sean's report and also use the 28/1.9 and can really only see a difference in contrast, across the picture.
My gut feeling is that the vignetting is worse with the RD1 due to the digital
sensor instead of film. But I'm not sure.
What was the snake's name ?
Cheers,
Roland.
I never had a problem with vignetting. I read Sean's report and also use the 28/1.9 and can really only see a difference in contrast, across the picture.
My gut feeling is that the vignetting is worse with the RD1 due to the digital
sensor instead of film. But I'm not sure.
What was the snake's name ?
Cheers,
Roland.
GeroV
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ferider said:Thank you Gerov.
I never had a problem with vignetting. I read Sean's report and also use the 28/1.9 and can really only see a difference in contrast, across the picture.
My gut feeling is that the vignetting is worse with the RD1 due to the digital
sensor instead of film. But I'm not sure.
What was the snake's name ?
Cheers,
Roland.
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Magus
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Avotius
Some guy
I just picked myself up a cv 35 2.5 pancake 2, its so small...very neat stuff and no need for a m mount adapter
haagen_dazs
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ferider said:must have been killed by GAS ....
I had both CV 15 and 21 lenses, and they are both good. What makes the 28/3.5 so useful is that no external finder is required.
if it is used on a r3a, i will probably need a viewfinder right?
darn...
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