lynnb
Veteran
The public beta version will stop working when the final version is released - until then, you get to play with it for free.
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom4/
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom4/
gavinlg
Veteran
awesome 
astro8
Well-known
Thanks for the link.
gavinlg
Veteran
Okay - so the new 2012 process developing tools are MUCH improved. I'm rather excited by this. The additional black/white and shadow/highlight adjustment range is SO good. I was able to best my previous development settings in 5 minutes on some old street shots with the x100. Bravo Adobe!
I will upgrade. $99 (or euors) is cheap compared to what you'd spend in a wet darkroom.
mto'brien
Well-known
Thanks for the heads up, Lynn. My first impression is that the new brush options alone might be worth the upgrade. Just played around with the shadow brush a bit and it is fantastic. A brush for localized noise reduction? awesome! Great news for my high iso M8 files. I really look forward to playing with LR4 today to see what's new and improved.
My only quibble so far is its size. It's massive at 965.8 mb compared to LR3 at 108.4 mb. Take a look at them both sitting idle, LR4 on top:
Why so huge? It may be all the new social sharing and book creation stuff that has been added? Don't know...
Not a big deal on my iMac, but my poor aging '07 macbook may have trouble with it.
UPDATE: Old macbook is running it fine, a little slow here and there but not bad.
My only quibble so far is its size. It's massive at 965.8 mb compared to LR3 at 108.4 mb. Take a look at them both sitting idle, LR4 on top:

Why so huge? It may be all the new social sharing and book creation stuff that has been added? Don't know...
Not a big deal on my iMac, but my poor aging '07 macbook may have trouble with it.
UPDATE: Old macbook is running it fine, a little slow here and there but not bad.
newspaperguy
Well-known
Thank you, Lynn.
What a great opportunity to try this program for free...
Always wondered if I would like using it - now I can find out.
Rick... trying to learn to speak digitally.
What a great opportunity to try this program for free...
Always wondered if I would like using it - now I can find out.
Rick... trying to learn to speak digitally.
newspaperguy
Well-known
As I said, Tom - trying to learn. 
kermaier
Well-known
My only quibble so far is its size. It's massive at 965.8 mb compared to LR3 at 108.4 mb. Take a look at them both sitting idle, LR4 on top:
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Why so huge? It may be all the new social sharing and book creation stuff that has been added? Don't know...
My guess would be that the Beta release contains a lot of debugging and diagnostic information compiled into it that bloats the size of the executable files. I'd expect this will be slimmed down and optimized considerably when the GA release goes out.
::Ari
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
My guess would be that the Beta release contains a lot of debugging and diagnostic information compiled into it that bloats the size of the executable files. I'd expect this will be slimmed down and optimized considerably when the GA release goes out.
::Ari
I sincerely hope so. But Adobe adding video editing capabilities looks rather as if at least part of that bloat will be permanent...
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
I will upgrade. $99 (or euors) is cheap compared to what you'd spend in a wet darkroom.
Of course.
But unless I am severely confused, you don't get B&W prints that you can frame and hang out of Lightroom either.
Of course.
But unless I am severely confused, you don't get B&W prints that you can frame and hang out of Lightroom either.![]()
Uh, why not? Lightroom is part of the development process... you can print out of and manipulate in Lightroom.
semordnilap
Well-known
Hooray for soft proofing!
Graham Line
Well-known
Hugely fat if that size carries through to the release version. Perhaps they would consider a modular approach that would allow selective loading -- or else improve Elements into a Lightroom Lite.
The Meaness
Well-known
highlight slider ftw!
celluloidprop
Well-known
Hugely fat... but 1GB is, what, $.08 of storage now?
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
Hugely fat... but 1GB is, what, $.08 of storage now?
It will affect RAM use and loading speed as well. And if you attempt boost the latter with a SSD, 1GB amounts to 1/256 of a regular affordable disk - not quite small either.
randolph45
Well-known
Thanks never tried this one
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
Of course.
But unless I am severely confused, you don't get B&W prints that you can frame and hang out of Lightroom either.![]()
Uh, why not? Lightroom is part of the development process... you can print out of and manipulate in Lightroom.
Right--that's the entire point of Lightroom.
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