Loading a Kindermann 35mm reel

[jagarch]

Hello,
I bought a set of Kindermann reels and tanks at a garage sale, with no instructions. Does anyone have these?
Am I doing this right? I'm threading the film under the two prongs, under the cross bar, and on top of the sharp triangular tooth.
Does anyone have a scan of the instructions?
thanks in advance

 

[marke]

I honestly don't remember how to load one of these, since I believe I've only used a Kindermann once or twice (I will only use Hewes). Why don't you just try to wind the rest of this film on the reel and see how it goes? Start by giving it a tug. If it holds, continue winding. If it continues to wind properly, then I guess you've got it! 🙂

 

[jke]

I don't recognize the mechanism here. Hewes reels, which I use, have two prongs and one fits into the last sprocket hole on each side of the film strip, and then you wind on from there.

But at least the orientation of your film here is correct. And if there is enough grip on the film here to keep it from slipping as you wind on, then I'd say you've got it right enough. Give the film a little outward U bend (i.e. with ends of U towards the reel spindle) as you wind, and it will pop right into wire spiral. No need to apply tension. You'll know by feel if things go cock-eyed.

 

[xayraa33]

Hello,
I bought a set of Kindermann reels and tanks at a garage sale, with no instructions. Does anyone have these?
Am I doing this right? I'm threading the film under the two prongs, under the cross bar, and on top of the sharp triangular tooth.
Does anyone have a scan of the instructions?
thanks in advance

you have the reel and film oriented right.

i place the start of the film over not under the two prongs at the axis.
just inserting the film ahead of the two prongs and hold it there with your left thumb while rotating the reel away from your film feeding right hand(as seen from the top). This is sufficient till you get it started.

i usually remove the spring clip at the axis from a reel that has it, as it is more bother than it is worth.

 

[FPjohn]

Push the film onto the spike

Push the film onto the spike

Insert the film in the slot in front of the spike and curl the roll towards the guides. The spike pierces the film with a mild tug and thumb pressure. It generally pricks the thumb as well! IME. 🙂

The Kindermann reels are robust and properly aligned; as are the Hewes.

yours
FPJ

 

[jagarch]

Aha! So the film goes under the cross bar but OVER the two prongs! This is the answer I was looking for. I developed a roll with the film going under the prongs and lost the first few frames.
thanks guys!

 

[matt352]

My trick to checking if the film is going where it should be while reeling the film is to try to see if the film slides easily in its channel (I usually by trying to push it deeper in the reel) as I go. If the film is where it should be, it will move smoothly in the channel, but if it doesn't, it means the film is doubled up or the edge might be stuck. So then I back it off and try reeling that section of the film again. Hope this helps (and makes sense).

Get a good stretch of waste film and practice reeling it with the lights on. Then practice with your eyes closed.

 

[newspaperguy]

Like Matt352 said - practice. An old uncut developed roll works fine, if you don't have a dummy* roll.

*I always keep several dummy rolls on hand to check winding, etc on new (to me) cameras.