Look of Images by SLR and Rangefinder Lenses

[raid]

Raid, if you add a Canon adapter P with a Canon adapter B, this is what you get. It's not rangefinder coupled but able to focus at infinity. I've tried the Canon FL/FD lenses and the Takumars are smaller and lighter.

I should try this out with a Pentax SMS 50mm lens or maybe the 35mm lens. The SMC lenses are very sharp and multicoated. Glad to hear that such a coupling works.

 

[bmattock]

Bill: I did not know that there is an adapter for using M42 lenses on LTM bodies. The idea of using such adapters is only practical for wideangle lenses or for normal lenses used at a smaller aperture setting.

I agree, I would not prefer to scale-focus a 'normal' lens with that sort of setup.

I have a 50mm/2.0 Luxon lens by Roeschlein-Kreuznach and it has what seems to be a a 39mm mount, but there is no correct rangefinder coupling with it with LTM bodies. It is meant for the Paxette (I think). I am still hoping that someone here will be able to help me shim it appropriately.

Regards,
Raid

The Luxon is for the Paxette, and if it has a rangefinder tab at all, it is for the 'Super Paxette'. Nice lens, I have one too. You can find out more about it here, although you probably already know about this:

http://www.cameraquest.com/braun.htm

The flange-to-film distance for the Paxette is 44 mm. The flange-to-film distance for the Leica is 28.8 mm. Therefore, you need an adapter that is 44-28.8 or 15.2mm in order to do scale focusing. I don't think that you could build an adapter to match the rangefinder tab of the Paxette to that of the Leica - the scale distance (from closest to farthest focal point) is different. So even if you got the two of them to agree on one distance, all the others would be off by an ever-increasing amount.

I have a Jones for the Super Paxette - I've got dozens of bodies and nearly all the lenses you can have. It's a fun camera, neat, quiet, but badly made and the best of the lenses are nowhere near as good as your basic FSU LTM lens. Wish it was different, I love the Paxette. But it's not a great camera or lens system, it was made to a price during the 1950's when Britain had import restrictions on German goods due to WWII.

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks

 

[raid]

Bill: Thanks for the information on the lens and the matching camera. I only have one lens (Luxon) and no camera for it. When I bought it on ebay, I thought I was getting a lens for LTM. It seems hopeless to consider matching this lens to a Leica camera.

Regards,

Raid

 

[Will]

I just recalled that I have an adapter for Pentacon 66 lenses => Canon FD body. I could then add the adapter B to this adapter and use MF lenses on a LTM body. It doesn't make any sense, though, since the MF lenses are not as sharp as 35mm lenses (overall) and they are large and heavy, and you would be having a wideangle lens become a normal lens, such as the wonderful 50mm lens.

Raid,

You are using the sweet spot (Center) of the 120 lense, the 80mm Biometar is a great lens for B&W.

I owned the 50mm Flektogon SC before, wonderful lens and is smaller than the 50mm Distagon for hasselblad.

Please try a 50mm in your test, and tell us your experience of scale foucsing with a 50...

 

[raid]

I may do a more comprehensive test then. I have some great 50mm lenses, including the FD 50/1.2L and the SMC 50/1.4. Now I have to find my "model" .... 🙂

 

[Will]

I may do a more comprehensive test then. I have some great 50mm lenses, including the FD 50/1.2L and the SMC 50/1.4. Now I have to find my "model" .... 🙂

Ever thought of buying a paster head and shoot the hell out of it?

I have, am I sick?


Well, no room to set up an studio in a 10m studio apartment here.

 

[raid]

Ever thought of buying a paster head and shoot the hell out of it?

I have, am I sick?


Well, no room to set up an studio in a 10m studio apartment here.

I don't know the answer to your question, but I suspect that you are still OK. I prefer human beings to dead objects. Maybe I am strange 🙂

 

[bmattock]

Bill: Thanks for the information on the lens and the matching camera. I only have one lens (Luxon) and no camera for it. When I bought it on ebay, I thought I was getting a lens for LTM. It seems hopeless to consider matching this lens to a Leica camera.

Regards,

Raid

I have seen several such auctions, I usually email the seller and tell them that the lens is not an LTM lens but a Paxette lens and they should warn people on their listing. Some say thanks, some don't answer, and some tell me I'm full of it. If your Luxon is one of the listings I'm thinking of, the seller told me to get stuffed, he'd run his own auctions with no help from me. So he's a crook, he was told it wasn't a LTM lens and sold it as such anyway.

Sorry to hear it, though. Let me know if you want to sell it, I can always find room for another Paxette lens.

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks

 

[raid]

Bill: I bet, it was the same seller. I will think about what to do with the lens. Maybe I get a Paxette and try it out first. Thanks.

Regards,
Raid

 

[ErnestoJL]

Ian:
The retrofocus design is a tool of the SLR makers to allow using WA lens without the need to raise the mirror.
This particular design is also called inverted Tele, as it´s based in the same principles but inverting the lens: eg. the front element of the tele becomes to be the rear element of the WA.

If your CV lens has it´s rear element about 10 mm off the film plane, be sure it´s of the classic design, not retrofocus.

Cheers

Ernesto

 

[ed1k]

Raid,
I didn't make any comparison in a way using adapters you're going to. I've shoot with different lenses Industar-61 in m42 mount I have for my Zenith and Industar-61 L/D for FED. Look and feel of the produced images is different IMHO, but technically they both are great 🙂
P.S. I think SLR version gives more blurry bokeh and I like better L/D version.
Eduard.

 

[raid]

Eduard,
It seems that the L/D version of the I-61 is well-received by many photographers. It is an amazingly inexpensive excellent lens. It did well in my tests of 50mm lenses.

Regards,
Raid