Lots of options results in indecision

Take a leap of faith. Choose one option and stick with it.
What could possible happen? Loss of coolness? Boredom? Insanity? Lack of manhood? Self pity? Nah...

Another day you have the possibility of improving yourself with another part of your bin of gear.
 
Joe, I saw that line, and to my mind that is GSNfan's experience/reality. Regardless whether it is mine, I can empathize enough to not call his experience/reality pure unadulterated crap and presupose he wets his pants on a regular basis.

Maybe it is just me, but If I wanted to question someone's assumptions or present an alternative, I would do it just like I would if we were face to face.

i actually talk to people like that...also it wasn't aimed completely at the op...
i just get so tired of that line of thought...
 
This is just another film vs digital rationalization. I don't buy the I can't be disciplined when using digital and I feel guilty enjoying using it. It, digital, is not the devil and you will not be damned for eternity for enjoying it. It does not matter or should not matter to anyone what you use.

Bob
 
This thread is about the problem that arises once you become conscious of the fact that you have a lot of options and you feel incapable of narrowing them down to the bare minimum.

Why should they be narrowed down to the bare minimum?


I'm planning to go out and take some photos. My first priority is shooting b&w film with my RF, but I'm also planning to take a small DSLR with a zoom lens 'just in case' the light is good for color... But I also know that I'm taking the DSLR because I might get bored half-way since film makes me concentrate more and be more selective so i'm more likely to get bored with it...

This is something I have always struggled with and its not going to change today, I'll take the DSLR and put up with the weight, because I want that extra option in case I get bored, because I want to be able to shoot for fun as well...

Maybe you take yourself too seriously as an 'artist', as if you're trying too hard to be a 'serious B&W film shooter'. Since you aren't making money at it, I fail to see the point in using a medium that isn't fun, and which appears to entail the risk of being boring. Or, to be more exact, I fail to see the point feeling angst about switching to something else when the serious B&W shooter game is boring you.


This made me think how cool it will be, lets say like HCB to have that discipline and stick with bare minimum and give it all.

Who gives a monkey's about this one camera, one lens philosophy? You evidently don't work that way, but, for some reason, seem to think that you should. Why?


But why I can't do it, its not that difficult. Why this obsession with shooting more and having endless options and having fun rather than concentrating on what I really like and where I get most of my satisfactory shots? Namely RF with B&W film... I'm not shooting for money so why should I carry all the tools in order to not miss the chance...

As Winogrand said, there are no shots when I'm reloading. When your camera is out of commission because you're reloading, don't have it with you, or can't get to it fast enough, there is no shot to be had. You might see a possibility for a shot, but you can't capture every chance. Such is life.


And it does not end there, because all the shots with the DSLR open an almost infinite number of other options as to how I should precess them and depending on my mood etc...

I don't quite see the reason for taking the DSLR - colour film is also quite effective for when the light is good for colour, and scanning the negs/slides surely opens up the same possibilities for processing that the DSLR does. An alternative is to carry a few rolls of colour film, or a second RF body loaded with colour.


Anyway, all these decisions are beginning to weigh me down into a state of indecision... And I'm beginning to get annoyed by it.

What's to decide? Pick a camera and medium, and shoot it. If you get bored or just fancy a change, then pick an alternative and shoot that. Use whatever gets you out of yourself and into the flow.
 
I can empathize enough to not call his experience/reality pure unadulterated crap and presupose he wets his pants on a regular basis.

But even if you do, I won't be offended because when something is pure and unadulterated its no longer crap, because crap by its very definition means impure and adulterated. lol
 
I'm planning to go out and take some photos. My first priority is shooting b&w film with my RF, but I'm also planning to take a small DSLR with a zoom lens 'just in case' the light is good for color... But I also know that I'm taking the DSLR because I might get bored half-way since film makes me concentrate more and be more selective so i'm more likely to get bored with it...

I don't understand that "boring" aspect. How can one be bored while photography. Is your hobby so boring? If I'm underway and notice that I might have the wrong equipment/lens with me then I probably get upset but not bored.
 
Thank you for all the relevant posts and comments, it did help me, and now I can see that what I need to do. For one, no more lugging around the DSLR 'just in case'.

Threads like this help sometimes to clear one's thoughts and get some feedback from others, positive or negative is not important. By simply writing down a mental block and sharing it with others its possible to fix it.
 
Your comments don't sound to me like you have all that many choices. I always keep the option open for serious, "in-the-zone" shots that may produce great street shots as well as "fun" ones that may only appeal to friends on Facebook, etc. I use whatever camera I have to do both. I shoot color film and convert to B&W later if the shot would be better in B&W leaving those option open as well. I don't think about it so much, I just go out ready for anything and just shoot. At least, that is what I do...maybe it helps you. Maybe it doesn't. Good luck/light and happy shooting!

Tuna
 
Is your hobby so boring?

When is a hobby no longer a hobby and more like work? even if you're not paid for it at least in the short-term.

I can call photography a hobby but its no longer a hobby because I cannot control it. I have to go out and shoot otherwise I feel as if I have lost something... Photography is more like work to me than my real work. But at the same time I have no interest in making money or turning photography into real work, because for the sort of photography I like there are no jobs and assignments.
 
I was perfectly happy with my M6 and 35mm lens when they were the only cameras I had... now I got a point and shoot, medium format camera, bunch of lenses, and now I got it in my head that building my own camera is a good idea (yeah still working on it.. pfff).
So I've yet again decided to sell all my kit except for the M6 and 28 / 50 lenses. I'm getting an M9 and that M6 will stay or go depending on how much I'll miss film. Will be nice to clear my head with all the options available and stay focussed again 🙂
 
Your comments don't sound to me like you have all that many choices. I always keep the option open for serious, "in-the-zone" shots that may produce great street shots as well as "fun" ones that may only appeal to friends on Facebook, etc. I use whatever camera I have to do both. I shoot color film and convert to B&W later if the shot would be better in B&W leaving those option open as well. I don't think about it so much, I just go out ready for anything and just shoot. At least, that is what I do...maybe it helps you. Maybe it doesn't. Good luck/light and happy shooting!

Tuna

There are always too many choices, but the problem is in us and not those choices now when I really think about it. Its this rationalistic way of thinking, 'just in case', 'having options', and 'why limits?' that is the problem.

Most of us buy more than we need 'just in case', when in fact as one of the posters said it here brilliantly that 'my storage is Ebay and Keh and I know i can buy from them in a week whatever i need'.
 
I was perfectly happy with my M6 and 35mm lens when they were the only cameras I had... now I got a point and shoot, medium format camera, bunch of lenses, and now I got it in my head that building my own camera is a good idea (yeah still working on it.. pfff).
So I've yet again decided to sell all my kit except for the M6 and 28 / 50 lenses. I'm getting an M9 and that M6 will stay or go depending on how much I'll miss film. Will be nice to clear my head with all the options available and stay focussed again 🙂

Honestly, selling is not going to help you. You WILL buy them again, because those items are in your consciousness and memory. They don't have to be in your curpboard, they're in your 'head'.

The same way that X100 is not owned by a most of us but we know it exists and what it can do, so we keep comparing what we have with X100 despite not having it. X100 is still a choice...

I hope I'm making sense, because as Roger Hicks said it, this is very much like zen.
 
Honestly, selling is not going to help you. You WILL buy them again, because those items are in your consciousness and memory.

That is nonesense. Work with what you have; if you are not using stuff and could find better things to do with the money then sell the gear. If you don't need the money and can store the gear well, then store it! If things 'remain' in your conciousness - seek help!
 
I find that a nice long run or a 20 mile bike ride into a strong wind helps me out when my mind goes into overdrive over issues like this. After the long workout, grab A camera and go shoot some pics. Just my 2 cents worth.
 
I just don't get the hand-wringing over "too much choice". As I've said, it is not a real problem (like monthly income is less than monthly expenses), it is a problem only in your head. If you feel that you have too many cameras, then just sell them if you need the money, or put them out of reach in a box in a closet. If those options are not successful in solving this problem, then therapy may be advisable. This reminds me of the hilarious character played by Woody Allen in the movie Annie Hall.
 
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That is nonesense. Work with what you have; if you are not using stuff and could find better things to do with the money then sell the gear. If you don't need the money and can store the gear well, then store it! If things 'remain' in your conciousness - seek help!

What do you think GAS is? Why do you think there is this compulsion to buy and buy and buy?

Its us exercising our 'options', by transferring whats already in our 'consciousness' into our hands and our cupboards... Its as simple as that.

Just because you don't have something, it does not mean its no longer an option, especially when you have the credit card balance to make it "a real option".

I needed help with choices stuck in my consciousness so I posted this thread. Try it sometimes, it helps.
 
I just don't get the hand-wringing over "too much choice". As I've said, it is not a real problem (like monthly income is less than monthly expenses), it is a problem only in your head. If you feel that you have too many cameras, then just sell them if you need the money, or put them out of reach in a box in a closet.

Exactly, it was mental block and like all mental blocks by sharing it I gained some important insight into why it bothered me so much.
 
... grab A camera and go shoot some pics. Just my 2 cents worth.

That is exactly what I'm going to do right now. This time just taking my RF with some tri-x and going out with a much lighter bag.

This thread was great and I'm glad I shared it with you people. No man is an island.
 
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