M10 Magnifier Question

[nuckabean]

Hello,

I was looking to get a magnifier for my M10. From what I've read, it seems that Leica changed the threading in the eyepiece, so the 1.25x and 1.4x magnifiers they sell won't fit without an adapter. Am I correct about this? Are there any magnifiers available for the m10 that don't require an adapter? it seems silly to spend $100 just to be able to use a little glass lens that already costs $400 (yes I know, it's Leica).

Thanks!

 

[robert blu]

You are correct, the "old" magnifier need an adapter to be used on the M10. Or you should buy the specific M10 magnifier.
I do not know if there arde third party magnifiers.
robert

 

[jaapv]

Are you sure that you need a magnifier? In many cases using the correct dioptre is more effective.
A magnifier reduces the angle of view, the eye relief and the contrast of the viewfinder, and in some cases may magnify the original problem as well.
Basically, given a decent eyesight, an M-RF/VF will enable easy focusing without magnification, provided it (and the lens) is properly calibrated and that proper eye correction -if needed- by the dioptre is used.
The only exceptions might be "difficult" lenses, like the Noctiluxes, Summilux 75, Apo-Telyt, etc., but even then...

 

[Huss]

Are you sure that you need a magnifier? In many cases using the correct dioptre is more effective.
A magnifier reduces the angle of view, the eye relief and the contrast of the viewfinder, and in some cases may magnify the original problem as well.
Basically, given a decent eyesight, an M-RF/VF will enable easy focusing without magnification, provided it (and the lens) is properly calibrated and that proper eye correction -if needed- by the dioptre is used.
The only exceptions might be "difficult" lenses, like the Noctiluxes, Summilux 75, Apo-Telyt, etc., but even then...

And here is where I agree with jaapv! I bought a Leica 1.4 magnifier, but found that all it did was poke me in the eye (seriously these things are not comfortable to use as they are tubes that stick out). There was no change in accuracy, but it did spoil the natural view of the VF.
The most important thing by far is making sure you can see the VF clearly.
So my 1.4 remains unused.

 

[nuckabean]

Thanks for your responses. The reason I’m looking at magnifiers is that I’m adding a couple longer lenses to my setup, including a 90 cron.

Is there an m10 specific magnifier? I can’t seem to find one so the part number or a link would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Huss]

even for the 90 I don't find it useful. The discomfort of using it far outweighs any negligible postives.
The most important thing is:
1. making sure your RF is accurate
2. diopter.

If u are close to a Leica store, you should test one out.

 

[robert blu]

From the Leica web site :

http://uk.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/Technical-Equipment/Viewfinder-Accessories/Viewfinder-magnifiers-M

Or if a diopter is more appropriate for you:

http://uk.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/Technical-Equipment/Viewfinder-Accessories/Correction-lenses

robert

 

[jaapv]

Thanks for your responses. The reason I’m looking at magnifiers is that I’m adding a couple longer lenses to my setup, including a 90 cron.

Is there an m10 specific magnifier? I can’t seem to find one so the part number or a link would be greatly appreciated.

Why should you want to add a magnifier for a 90 mm 2.0 lens? 😕 That is well within the precision span of a M rangefinder. I find the things a PITA. They do not add anything to my focusing and have to be unscrewed using a wideangle, including adding and removing the diopter correction lens (which, btw, may be different for the magnifier, adding an extra 100 Euro to the price). You'll spend more time fiddling with the camera than taking photographs.

 

[jaapv]

even for the 90 I don't find it useful. The discomfort of using it far outweighs any negligible postives.
The most important thing is:
1. making sure your RF is accurate
2. diopter.

If u are close to a Leica store, you should test one out.

So true.:angel:

 

[majid]

I have both the 1.25x and the 1.40x. I bought them to compensate for the woefully inadequate 0.58x VF on the M8. Now that the M10 is closer to the classic 0.72x (if not the wonderful 0.85x option of the MP), I never use them any more.

 

[peterm1]

I use this on my M8 which, as another poster Majid, said is "woeful". It helps a lot. Though billed as a "magnifier" in fact it has stepless diopter adjustment built in from -3.0 ~ +1.5. It works a treat by simply rotating a ring on the device. My main reasons for going down this route were (a) it is cheaper than a Leica diopter and (b) if your eyes change as you age you can make the compensating adjustment by rotating the afore-mentioned ring a little more. Also there is no need to find out what specific diopter lens you need before ordering one from Leica as you can just make the necessary adjustments when you get it.

As I recall the device is available at two or three different levels of magnification and this needs to be specified when ordering (the diopter is adjustable not the magnification - that is set in manufacture)

You will presumably need the adapter ring if Leica has indeed changed the thread fitting.

http://www.japanexposures.com/shop/accessories/ms-mag-x1.35-magnifier-for-leica-m.html

 

[raid]

I was never satisfied with using the magnifier on my M9 or M8. It feels uncomfortable.

 

[Dante_Stella]

The 1.4 on an M240 is great with the 75/1.4 - you get to 95% magnification. Would be even better with the M10, which would get you to 101%. I didn't see the point in the 1.25, which doesn't have enough benefit to justify the hassle.

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[robert blu]

I bought the 1,25 for my 0,58 M7 planning to use it with the 75 cv lens or eventually the 50.
No practical advantage with the 50 and minor with the 75.
Than my photography evolved towards wide angles...so I used it very rarely and I'm not sure it was worthwhile...
robert
PS: do not feel any need for the M10