JNewell
Leica M Recidivist
Tim Gray said:
Sadly, 'tis true!
I think Pablito's also right about the lower light effect, even when the RF doesn't flare up. _That_ might a persuasive reason to upgrade the finder of an M4-P/M6 (or late M4-2).
M6 viewfinder under-rated?
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Sadly, 'tis true!
I think Pablito's also right about the lower light effect, even when the RF doesn't flare up. _That_ might a persuasive reason to upgrade the finder of an M4-P/M6 (or late M4-2).
maddoc
... likes film again.
VF flare ...
VF flare ...
... the M4-P VF is quite good regarding flare. No problems at all, had no situation so far where the VF flared out that much that focussing became impossible (as it happened with my M6). The MP VF is slightly better compared with the M4-P but the M3 VF is still the best from my experience.
VF flare ...
... the M4-P VF is quite good regarding flare. No problems at all, had no situation so far where the VF flared out that much that focussing became impossible (as it happened with my M6). The MP VF is slightly better compared with the M4-P but the M3 VF is still the best from my experience.
raid
Dad Photographer
alternatve said:
I move my eyes around and slightly change the way I hold the camera. I don't see this as a $275 problem at all. Maybe a $50 nuisance.
ferider
Veteran
raid said:
It is cheaper in the context of a CLA.
aizan
Veteran
anybody have photos taken in flare-prone situations? i've never experienced it myself, but i'm curious whether it's because i have a different camera (hexar rf), or because we're shooting in different types of environments.
maddoc
... likes film again.
This one because the lamp in the upper right corner was quite bright and the VF flared a little:
windraider
Established
To those who have experienced vf difficulties with the M6 - I'm not trying to downplay/discount your experiences & I hope you will not be offended by my post. I also understand that I might have yet to encounter the light conditions that you've experienced and maybe the experience is dependant on the way our eyes are physically structured/condition. But just to get a bit more clarification:
1) I've experience difficult lighting conditions such that it was difficult to view the framelines of the M6 & M5. Under these conditions the framelines of the M3 were still visible. Is this the effect of flare & the reason for the M3's superior vf?
2) I understand that the RF patch of the M6 could white-out, but for me under those conditions so would that of the M3 & M7 (with MP finder). Could it be that with the M6 it is just easier to have your eye off-centered resulting in RF patch white-out?
1) I've experience difficult lighting conditions such that it was difficult to view the framelines of the M6 & M5. Under these conditions the framelines of the M3 were still visible. Is this the effect of flare & the reason for the M3's superior vf?
2) I understand that the RF patch of the M6 could white-out, but for me under those conditions so would that of the M3 & M7 (with MP finder). Could it be that with the M6 it is just easier to have your eye off-centered resulting in RF patch white-out?
kipkeston
Well-known
My M6 whites out all the bloody time. Without exaggeration when light is coming from the left of the camera usually. I will upgrade the finder soon.
maddoc
... likes film again.
To my experience the frame lines were always easy to see, under all lighting conditions also with the M6. My problem (which could be due to my eyes structure or condition) is that the RF patch became totally white and focussing was impossible. Under low light conditions I have to use a quite large aperture, e.g. f/1.4 or f/2.0 and with the RF patch being invisible (white-out), accurate focussing is impossible and there is no time for moving around the camera / eye until the RF patch becomes visible again.windraider said:
My shooting style is pre-setting of the exposure, roughly pre-focus and then quickly bring the camera to the eye, adjust focus and take the photo. I think that this is the advantage of a RF camera, being able to shoot fast.
aizan
Veteran
in that photo, are you sure you weren't just picking up the secondary image from the light itself?
maddoc
... likes film again.
aizan said:
Secondary image from the light, in the upper right corner ? I am sure, it is the lamp itself. In that image is no ghost image or secondary light.
aizan
Veteran
no, i mean the secondary image of the rf spot.
maddoc
... likes film again.
aizan said:
As I remember, no.
cmogi10
Bodhisattva
The M6 viewfinder hasn't been a problem for me, and I have a .85 one, the "bad" one...
3js
Established
Just tried it out with my classic M6. As an ex top level pistol shooter I know how precise you have to be in your face and eye alignment to hit the bullseye. With this "know how" in the back of my mind I tried to make the rf path white out. Every time I managed to succeed, it was a case of misalignment of my eye. I also tried that strong light from the left, and I saw that in this case you really have make a perfect alignment to see the rf path. Even a very, very slight movement out of a perfect alignment whites out the rf path. You can actually see the width of your pupil by moving your head slightly left to right, over and under.
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