M8 + Nocti Pics :)

[MarcoS]

Thanks Vladimir,

to go back on topic a little, this is the Noctilux on the R-D1.
It was darker than the image suggests, indeed I had to shoot wide open and max 1600 ISO to get just enough speed (1/74) both for handholding and freezing the singer's movements.

 

[J. Borger]

THis is a very nice picture Marco ... but the Noctilux is not under attack here
This picture makes a strong point for thel R-D1 too ......

 

[MarcoS]

Thank you J,

indeed the R-D1 doesn't stop to amaze me...
I only hope the M8 will focus better and more consistently and it will be less demanding on batteries

 

[Peter G1G2]

I hope this wisdom is not exclusively based on the few pictures in this post. Unfortunately i have not seen any other pictures of M8 with Noctilux.
If i missed those please give me the link .....

Wisdom?
I'm just responding to the pictures posted in this thread. I happen to like the look of the Noctilux very much. If I get links to other M8/Noctilux photo's I'll mail them to you. IMHO the bokeh on these pictures looks better than the bokeh from the Nikon and Canon lenses that I got to see through various links in this thread.
It may not be particularly wise to state this, but hey, it's just my personal opinion.

Cheers,

peter

 

[MarcoS]

While we are talking about M8 and Noctilux (=low light environment), another feature I'd like to see in the M8 would be a "silent mode" (like in the Eos-1Ds) where the shutter won't be cocked until you release the shutter button.

The R-D1 is not that silent (I took only few shots during the performance, fearing to disturb), definitely louder than an M6-M7.
The M8 shutter sound is relatively quiet but it is followed by the shutter cocking which makes a whirring sound similar to 1 sec long exposure, which in the end makes the camera louder than the R-D1.

In an hypothetical "silent mode" we could take the shot, keep the shutter button pressed while hiding the camera under a coat or in the bag, then release the button with much less noise.
A solution like this would be sometimes the only way to get the shot.

Btw, the 1Ds in silent mode is still much louder than the R-D1...

 

[newyorkone]

Looks just like any other Digicam.

Looks like any other digicam...

...photo that is cropped and converted to JPEG, incorrectly exposed, with camera shaking and taken with horrible store fluorescent lighting.

 

[newyorkone]

Btw, the 1Ds in silent mode is still much louder than the R-D1...

And a giant beast of a camera compared to a RF.

 

[ywenz]

Looks like any other digicam...

...photo that is cropped and converted to JPEG, incorrectly exposed, with camera shaking and taken with horrible store fluorescent lighting.

Images taken on film by a shaky hand and under flourescent lighting, scanned and saved to JPEG at medium quality still looks like film on the computer screen. These images from the M8 looks digital. That's all I'm saying.

 

[Nachkebia]

Images taken on film by a shaky hand and under flourescent lighting, scanned and saved to JPEG at medium quality still looks like film on the computer screen. These images from the M8 looks digital. That's all I'm saying.

InDeeeDa!!!....

 

[SteveRD1]

I do agree on one thing

I do agree on one thing

That they do look "digital" - BUT still, it makes me want an M8 anyway. Smooth, no noise, WOW.

I am fond of the B&W film look, but I also like the digital look sometimes as well. I have the Noct already, now just need an M8 to be buddies with my M7 and Ill be set.

Thanks for posting these samples.

 

[newyorkone]

These images from the M8 looks digital. That's all I'm saying.

Kind of hard to tell with the size and quality of these images viewed on a computer screen is what I'm saying. I can make scanned film look digital too...it all depends on who took the shot and how it was post processed.

 

[Nachkebia]

That they do look "digital" - BUT still, it makes me want an M8 anyway. Smooth, no noise, WOW.

I am fond of the B&W film look, but I also like the digital look sometimes as well. I have the Noct already, now just need an M8 to be buddies with my M7 and Ill be set.

Thanks for posting these samples.

Tell me about it! I would love to have M8 with me on my next trip!

 

[ywenz]

Kind of hard to tell with the size and quality of these images viewed on a computer screen is what I'm saying. I can make scanned film look digital too...it all depends on who took the shot and how it was post processed.

It's not hard to tell because scanned film and slide images at these same resolution and viewed on a computer screen will look entirely different than these M8 samples..

Yes, you can post process these images to give it film look, but you can do that with images from any DSLR and RD1 as well. My point is anyone who says M8 produces more film-like images than most digital cameras are incorrect.

 

[Nachkebia]

I just want to state, every comment ywenz makes, I totaly agree with it! now and in the future!

 

[newyorkone]

My point is anyone who says M8 produces more film-like images than most digital cameras are incorrect.

You have a point until you get extreme. This might be your opinion but it not "the truth." People that don't agree with you are not incorrect, they just have a different opinion.

I happen to believe that some of the better M8 leaked images do look better than most digital cameras and I have a 5D to compare with which is often considered one of the best DSLR's. These do not for all the reasons already mentioned.

I wonder if you guys would make the same "that looks so digital" comments when the images look good??? Or are you just bad M8 picture bullies

For instance, I downloaded the shot of the woman taken by Roberto (Leica-User thread) with the 90 APO and that shot definitely does not look digital. IMHO it blows away any 5D file or 35mm film scan...period.

 

[usccharles]

hi again,

so to keep these images as unbiased as possible, i have re-processed the RAW files here using CS2. white balance is set to "as shot" and i used Ctrl + U to remove all the auto adjustments. so these images are all at default. that removes any of my manual post-processing.

enjoy

i'll also add these to my first post of this thread :angel:

 

[truando]

which one?

which one?

well then, I'd like to know which of these is digital.

cup 1 is the white one

cup 2 is the brown one

let me know if cup 1 is digital or cup 2

no need to look at exif, there is none.

both pictures are unaltered and I did not try to make one of them look analog.

i'll give you camera brand, film, lens etc. later after we have some answers.

 

[ywenz]

I wonder if you guys would make the same "that looks so digital" comments when the images look good??? Or are you just bad M8 picture bullies .

No need to get hypothetical, I'll give praise when praise is called for. I assume there will be some great samples from the M8 to come in the near future. I assume they will be of no more film-like than the 5D or comparable digicams... The entire time, i was hoping Leica will come out with some magical formula with the M8 to give its image an entirely unique look.

I can see now that it is just a run of the mill professional digicam wrapped in a stellar body. Kind of like what the film-M is when compared to other film bodies. <- Nothing wrong with that, but it is what it is.

 

[jaapv]

1 is digital.

 

[newyorkone]

The entire time, i was hoping Leica will come out with some magical formula with the M8 to give its image an entirely unique look. I can see now that it is just a run of the mill professional digicam wrapped in a stellar body. Kind of like what the film-M is when compared to other film bodies.

The magic is in the lenses...

Let's just hope that as the picture gets clearer that the M8 is true to maintaining lens fingerprint.