M8-up with the best

jlw said:
Before you get too excited about overall image quality, it might be a good idea to compare to some other 10-megapixel cameras.

Of course, I'd rather shoot with an RF than an (ick!) SLR, so as long as quality is usable I'm fine.

But it would be incautious to conclude that the M8 is head-and-shoulders above other cameras in terms of file quality without examining some other files.
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Up there with the best.... Not many heads and shoulders sticking out in that expression....
 
It is actualy funny that some people think M8 could not be UP with the best digital cameras! ofcourse it is! its a damn LEICA! gooshhh :)
 
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rxmd said:
Yeah, and that the images have this plasticky digital look but you can take the M8 into a warzone with you.

Philipp
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The canons and nikons are war zone proven. The M8 will not have dust or water seals .
 
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rxmd said:
Yeah, and that the images have this plasticky digital look but you can take the M8 into a warzone with you.

Philipp
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You can with a battery less M3 or M2, not with this M8 with all its electronics..

Looks like the Leica marketing is doing a fine job on people...
 
The Ms are just as much war-zone proven. Think Leroy and Burrows.
 
varjag said:
The Ms are just as much war-zone proven. Think Leroy and Burrows.
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Think - Digital, Think - New game

I can sit an M3 out in the rain for an hour and still use it after it dries up. You think the same can be said of the M8? I know it can be said of the D200 and the 1D bodies.
 
I had my Canon 10D literally dripping water at Vic Falls. Not weather sealed. No problems at all. I think this issue is overblown.
 
I don't think it's overblown when you are comparing capabilities in an apples to apples fashion. However, I'll say this. The M8 looks to be the best built camera in its form factor.
 
I am convinced the M8 easily ranks in the top 2 of digital rangefinders: not only in buildquality but also in imagequality. I gues that will do it for me :)
 
I think the M8 will easily be the #1 RF but in the scope of digital it's not any better than the run of pro digital gear with fewer features.
 
x-ray said:
I think the M8 will easily be the #1 RF but in the scope of digital it's not any better than the run of pro digital gear with fewer features.
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I think the M8 is a throw back to the era when pro cameras had fewer features than their amateur cousins (think FE2 compared to F3 or A1 compared to F1) these days I look for a camera that has automation for situations I need it.
 
Toby said:
I think the M8 is a throw back to the era when pro cameras had fewer features than their amateur cousins (think FE2 compared to F3 or A1 compared to F1) these days I look for a camera that has automation for situations I need it.
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I had not thought of it that way, but yes, I seldomly see a pro using the setting "baby 2"
 
For crying out loud! No one is trying to say the M8 will make better photos than a Canon 1Ds or Nikon D2-whatever. All that is being said is that it is providing COMPARABLE image quality to these cameras in the RF form.
Many photographers have been waiting for this and I have spoken to a few pro M shooters who will definitely buy this camera. Let's get over it! Pro DSLR shooters - as you were.
 
jaapv said:
I had not thought of it that way, but yes, I seldomly see a pro using the setting "baby 2"
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It's not really that kind of thing, more like having tracking AF or TTL flash, but having the ability to manually override the camera easily like the manual focus control on Canon L lenses whilst the AF is still on. One of the best thing about the Eos system is the ability to autofocus in a pitch black room if you have a flash attatched but to the same extent the manual ergonomics are still good despite the amount of help the camera can give you if you need it.
 
x-ray said:
I think the M8 will easily be the #1 RF but in the scope of digital it's not any better than the run of pro digital gear with fewer features.
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Agreed, even though I love my RD-1. However, I doubt the image quality will be any better than the semi pro/prosumer kit with 10 MP - Nikon D200, forthcoming Pentax K10D etc. The M8's USPs are it is an M mount RF (with all of the benefits that brings), it is most likely better built than the RD-1 and you'll most likely get it serviced in the future. It will never be as robust as a mechanical M - the electronics will see to that - no banging in nails or fending off a mugger with this one:)

As far a price is concerned, it is a better deal than the RD-1 was when it was launched - MP/M7 + 50% versus something like CV R3 + 300% (I'm ignoring the ergonomics of the RD-1 which are great, but still not really worth that sort of mark up).

I'm sure that the M8 will be a relative success and in the right hands, capable of producing great images, but not necessarily any better than a whole raft of other digital cameras or existing film cameras. No sour grapes here, I will eventually get one, once user feedback is in the public domain, as my RD-1 will not last forever.
 
Toby said:
It's not really that kind of thing, more like having tracking AF or TTL flash, but having the ability to manually override the camera easily like the manual focus control on Canon L lenses whilst the AF is still on. One of the best thing about the Eos system is the ability to autofocus in a pitch black room if you have a flash attatched but to the same extent the manual ergonomics are still good despite the amount of help the camera can give you if you need it.
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It's pointless to compare AF SLR systems to RF. Different tools for different needs. Personally I will own both.
 
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