Dwayneb9584
Well-known
So this Friday I'll be getting a new lens which will be the CV Nokton 35mm f1.4 SC, a lens I've been wanting for a while. I've been researching back a lot and trying to decide between this and the ZM Biogon 35mm f2.8. I was sold on the Nokton because of it's quality, price, color rendering, speed, etc despite all the negative reviews it's received.
Anyway, I purchased a used super mint LH-6 hood for it about two weeks ago for an awesome deal from a RFF member here (you know who you are thanks). Now my question is do any of you recommend that I do or do not run a 43mm filter on this lens. The lens hood will be on the camera all the time but I heard things about flaring. Keep in mind I am getting the S.C. version of this lens. Now if you do recommend a filter which brand and type would you get that is reasonably priced (Under $40.00 US).
Dwayne
Anyway, I purchased a used super mint LH-6 hood for it about two weeks ago for an awesome deal from a RFF member here (you know who you are thanks). Now my question is do any of you recommend that I do or do not run a 43mm filter on this lens. The lens hood will be on the camera all the time but I heard things about flaring. Keep in mind I am getting the S.C. version of this lens. Now if you do recommend a filter which brand and type would you get that is reasonably priced (Under $40.00 US).
Dwayne
mfogiel
Veteran
Any filter, no matter how good, will make the flaring worse. Keep the hood on, and when you shoot against the light, learn to shade the lens with your hand or a cap, this works wonders most of the time. The filters are ok if you do B&W landcapes.
BillBingham2
Registered User
A great choice, congratulations. You've opened up the religious discussion about protective filtering or no protective filtering.
B&W filters were my choice years back. These days I would only use a filter on a lens that I could not afford to replace. I use lens hoods on everything and think that for what I shoot that is fine. Dusty dangerous areas might bring me to another approach quickly though.
B2
B&W filters were my choice years back. These days I would only use a filter on a lens that I could not afford to replace. I use lens hoods on everything and think that for what I shoot that is fine. Dusty dangerous areas might bring me to another approach quickly though.
B2
ferider
Veteran
Actually, for the Nokton it's a no-brainer. Due to chrome barrel, without filter, you will get circular flare rings, sometimes. The LH-6 hood goes on the outside of the barrel, so it doesn't prevent this problem. This also happens with other lenses with similar build (for instance Biogon 35/2). So use a (black) filter, or if you don't like the filter, at least an empty filter ring. I recommend B+W or Hoya HMC filters.
It's a great lens, BTW.
Roland.
It's a great lens, BTW.
Roland.
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Tom A
RFF Sponsor
Or simply paint the ring black - using a permanent ink pen like the Faber Lumicolor. Easy to clean off when and if you ever want to sell it.
Tim Gray
Well-known
Congratulations on the purchase. You should like it.
I use filters mostly for protection. They can make flare worse, but in practice, I don't find it to be a big deal. Plenty of people don't use filters, so that's a perfectly fine option too.
What IS noticeable is sometimes in night shots, you get a mirrored reflection about the center of the image of bright light sources. I realize some might call this flare, but it's a specific type arising from parallel surfaces. It's also easy to avoid. If you are out shooting long exposures or something at night, just pop off the filter.
I go with B+W MRC filters. I've only had a TINY number of images where I noticed any problems that they caused. 99.5% of crummy photos are my fault, and of that 0.5% that's not, it's usually something other than filter-induced flare.
Also note, that a multicoated filter does not somehow elevate a single coated lens to MC status. Maybe on the front surface, but multicoating cuts down on reflections and transmission losses at EVERY reflective surface, not just the outermost element
I use filters mostly for protection. They can make flare worse, but in practice, I don't find it to be a big deal. Plenty of people don't use filters, so that's a perfectly fine option too.
What IS noticeable is sometimes in night shots, you get a mirrored reflection about the center of the image of bright light sources. I realize some might call this flare, but it's a specific type arising from parallel surfaces. It's also easy to avoid. If you are out shooting long exposures or something at night, just pop off the filter.
I go with B+W MRC filters. I've only had a TINY number of images where I noticed any problems that they caused. 99.5% of crummy photos are my fault, and of that 0.5% that's not, it's usually something other than filter-induced flare.
Also note, that a multicoated filter does not somehow elevate a single coated lens to MC status. Maybe on the front surface, but multicoating cuts down on reflections and transmission losses at EVERY reflective surface, not just the outermost element
Andy Kibber
Well-known
I've never really seen any need for a filter, espeically if you're going to do some digital post-processing.
I say save the $40 for some film!
I say save the $40 for some film!
robbeiflex
Well-known
Get yourself a strong ND, load your camera with ISO 100, then shoot in daylight wide open! 
Great lens, I enjoy mine a lot! I agree with ferider and Tom A regarding the filter. I also get great colour prints using a skylight with this lens, that's an option you could consider too.
Cheers,
Rob
Great lens, I enjoy mine a lot! I agree with ferider and Tom A regarding the filter. I also get great colour prints using a skylight with this lens, that's an option you could consider too.
Cheers,
Rob
Dwayneb9584
Well-known
Thanks a lot guys for all you fast responses. I'm actually thinking a good thing to do is to color the silver with a black sharpie like (Tom A) said. I think that one of my concerns is dust effecting the lens. Is this common. Also with out a filter is the lens glass more pron to scratches? To my knowledge even if the glass was scratched it won't affect the image anyway as the light goes through the sensor to the negative. Idk am I right lol? I just wanna take pictures lol. But no seriously still debating whether or not to purchase a filter or not.
Xherion
Member
I used both the LH-6 hood and B+W MRC F-pro filter with this lens.
Haven't encountered any flare so far.
Haven't encountered any flare so far.
Mister E
Well-known
Do like Jonmanjiro does and punch the glass out of the filter and put just the black ring on.
Tom, why does Mr K love the chrome filter rings?
Tom, why does Mr K love the chrome filter rings?
dan_sutton
Member
I'm not familiar with the chrome/black ring on the front lens element and I would like to hear it explained. If I were you, I'd spend about 64$ on a B+W ND .9 filter and a tiffen red filter. b+w doesn't make a 43mm red filter for some reason thus get the tiffen. then go shoot. both of these are good for about 3 stops so you can get closer to 1.4 out and about. that's how my 50 cron is.
Xherion
Member
the chrome part is not the filter ring, but more for bayonet mount for the hood.
same thing with the zeiss zm design
same thing with the zeiss zm design
the chrome part is not the filter ring, but more for bayonet mount for the hood.
same thing with the zeiss zm design
the filter ring is chrome.

Dwayneb9584
Well-known
would it be a good idea to get a uncoated lens filter? I figured with the SC version adding effects like b&w or whatever multiv coat will sorta change the effect of the true SC of the lens. Idk I still nead help on this matter.
BillBingham2
Registered User
No filter, lens hood from CV!
B2 (;->
B2 (;->
Dwayneb9584
Well-known
So I was looking at some filters and found this. What do you all think...
1. http://www.adorama.com/BW43CM.html
2. http://www.adorama.com/BW43LRM.html
3. Lens hood no filter (Scared about glass getting scractched)
4. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/120402-REG/B_W_66023185_43mm_UV_Haze_010.html
1. http://www.adorama.com/BW43CM.html
2. http://www.adorama.com/BW43LRM.html
3. Lens hood no filter (Scared about glass getting scractched)
4. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/120402-REG/B_W_66023185_43mm_UV_Haze_010.html
Steve M.
Veteran
Nix the uncoated filter. If you don't have flare now, I guarantee you will w/ an uncoated one. The main problem, as others have pointed out, is that chrome in the front of the lens, so get the marker pen out.
WDPictures
Established
No filter on my MC version of this lens even though I use filters on all of my other lenses. As others have said the hood is very protective etc. plus it doesn't self-retract like some built-in hoods which can leave the front element more exposed to bumps and knocks. If you plan on using your lens near flying debris of some sort then a filter might be a good idea.
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