Massive EOS M Discounts

CameraQuest said:
It seems Canon is moving out the 1st generation EOS M at a big discount - probably to make way for the 2nd generation.

http://www.exposureguide.com/equipm...a-with-ef-m-22mm-f2-stm-lens-for-299-300-off/

Half off - $599 to $299

Stephen
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I think it is just as likely that Canon will halt their foray into the mirrorless realm. They took a bath on the EOS-M, a subpar product. In addition, mirrorless sales over all are stagnant and DSLR sales are climbing. So I suspect that Canon executives may be in denial about the fact that WOS-M simply wasn't competitive and come to the conclusion that it failed solely because the mirrorless market is down.

I hope Canon makes a second generation EOS-M but I wouldn't bet on it.
 
i think mark 2 is ready to ship...just waiting on the originals to sell now...
it's a solid camera that will be reworked a bit.
if canon would buy a better sensor instead of using their own that would help.
 
Why does such a highly respected very capable manufacturer struggle in this particular market. The Sigma series with all it's flaws and quirks garners more attention!

I've never been a Canon fan personally but I'm a little puzzled at their lack of success while Fuji, Sony etc, seem to be running away with it!
 
back alley said:
i think mark 2 is ready to ship...just waiting on the originals to sell now...
it's a solid camera that will be reworked a bit.
if canon would buy a better sensor instead of using their own that would help.
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I think you'll find that the new sensor technology in their just-announced 70D is quite the ticket for mirrorless cameras. I wouldn't be counting Canon out of this market just yet. Rather the opposite would be my guess.

...Mike

P.S. Full disclosure: I'm currently using another not-much-loved Canon mirrorless camera (a Canon G1 X, with a slightly larger than 4/3rds sensor). It's not a bad little camera, for all it's faults.

P.P.S. dpReview pointer to video(s) on Canon's 70D:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/07/03/canon-videos-show-70d-focusing
 
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Keith said:
Why does such a highly respected very capable manufacturer struggle in this particular market. The Sigma series with all it's flaws and quirks garners more attention!

I've never been a Canon fan personally but I'm a little puzzled at their lack of success while Fuji, Sony etc, seem to be running away with it!
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It boils down to lame marketing. Canon is a brand that is hardly instinctively attractive if you want to be different - they are as middle of the road as can be, even Nikon is perceived as less mainstream. If they want to sell something new and different, they'd have to promote it aggressively, even against their own legacy product lines. But going by the lame and scarce promotion they did, Canon presumably tied the hands of their mirrorless department when it comes to advertising and don't allow them to position themselves as a competition to DSLRs, fearing their shareholders more than a failure of the EOS-M series.

Sony on the other hand had no option but to position their mirrorless (as well as their solid mirror SLRs) agressively against their (as well as anybody else's) plain old DSLRs - the latter did not sell all that well, and with the company struggling as a whole they cannot afford immobility in the market any more. Fuji have nothing they could take business away from, so they can do as they like. And the Sigmas are weird, but some people love to be perversely against the mainstream - they'd probably still sell if they were even worse, as long as they remain the only ones to use that odd sensor.
 
I was surprised to find that I really liked mine. It was good enough for me that it replaced THREE cameras: Ricoh GXR, Canon 5D and Pentax K5. It is now my only digital camera. The fact that it can do both video and stills with high image quality in a compact package, and had both pleasing colour and B&W jpegs, were the deciding factors. But I normally just shoot static or slow moving subjects these days - for fast action I still use my Canon Elan 7e and Leica M's.

Test shot from 75mm Heliar Classic 1.8 on Canon EOS-M, showing off the sharpness and smoothness:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/97682169@N08/9265049673/sizes/o/in/photostream/
 

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mfunnell said:
P.S. Full disclosure: I'm currently using another not-much-loved Canon mirrorless camera (a Canon G1 X, with a slightly larger than 4/3rds sensor). It's not a bad little camera, for all it's faults.
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What faults? The only thing that is missing in my point of view is a usable auto iso function.
 
If I may just add, the 22mm lens and touchscreen interface is a great combo for fuss free shooting. Just tap the screen and lens will focus and take a shot. The lens is actually very, very good, too.
 
tom.w.bn said:
What faults? The only thing that is missing in my point of view is a usable auto iso function.
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Laggy autofocus is still my biggest complaint, after using g1x for a year. Not big enough of a problem to switch, but am getting other camera for fast paced situations.

Haven't had any issue with auto iso. It could be more configurable, but not unusable in its current form.
 
jarski said:
Laggy autofocus is still my biggest complaint, after using g1x for a year. Not big enough of a problem to switch, but am getting other camera for fast paced situations.

Haven't had any issue with auto iso. It could be more configurable, but not unusable in its current form.
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Have you upgraded the firmware that speeds up Autofocs quite a bit.
 
The quys over at digitalrev did a little AF test: video. It surely improved, but it still is the worst AF of the bunch. Maybe the new Canon sensor makes the coming versions much better.

@Ruhayat: did you ever tried a Sony Nex, Samsung NX or any of the m4/3 offerings? I expect you would've been happy with any of these....
 
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