Fred Burton
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His examples of noise are higher than I expected. Above 400 is not good at all.
Here is a side-by-side:
G1 ISO 400
M8 ISO 320
G1 ISO 800
M8 ISO 640
M8 ISO 1250
Original scene:
G1 ISO 400

M8 ISO 320

G1 ISO 800

M8 ISO 640

M8 ISO 1250

Original scene:

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Tuolumne
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M8 with 2-3 lenses and G1 with adapter and 45-200mm zoom in the bag will make for a perfectly versatile travel combo. Also, it might be the better solution for lenses with focus shift than the M8. The Sonnar 50mm starts to look very tempting.
I just came back from a trip with the G1 and M5 with a 35mm f3.5 ltm lens. Unfortunately, the M5 was redundant. Hardly used it at all.
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Fred Burton
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How do prints from the G1 look?
Tuolumne
Veteran
How do prints from the G1 look?
I haven't had a chance to make any yet, but will report back.
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scho
Well-known
How do prints from the G1 look?
I have made several 16x20 and 18x24 inch prints from my G1 image files and they look great. Using a Canon iPF6100.
Avotius
Some guy
Avotius,
Don't you shoot a GRD1 or something like that?
Isn't the G1 better for noise than the compact digitals?
Yes it is but the GRD is also a lot smaller then the G1. I would maybe consider a G1 type camera later once the price came down a few hundred dollars but as it stands now my ultimate benchmark is that it has to have high iso better then my canon 20D and I am not seeing it in this camera. That kit lens though, its really nice, not canon L grade but certainly more then a match for any high end consumer zoom in the canon stable.
Unfortunately I think what we do have with the G1 is another noisy panasonic camera, but it is progress at least. I am looking forward to more m4/3 developments, and I can see myself owning some sort of m4/3 compact in the future, but as it stands now I would not want one as my primary carry around shooter.
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
If they were to put the sensor technology from the LX3 into a 4/3ds sized sensor, they would have a hell of a nice camera.
Tuolumne
Veteran
If they were to put the sensor technology from the LX3 into a 4/3ds sized sensor, they would have a hell of a nice camera.
Maybe the G2?
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HansDerHase
Established
this could be a cheap back up for any M8 user.
Now that there is a M-lens adapter for m4/3 I'd wait for Olympus to bring out the announced m4/3 compact.
We may become a "cheap" substitute for any M8 user.
(That is besides the "me-too wealthy dentist-or-eye-surgery" type of user who can't live without a red dot of course.)
Ooops, this is the M8-Forum. I better run now
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
Here is a side-by-side:
G1 ISO 400
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M8 ISO 320
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G1 ISO 800
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M8 ISO 640
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M8 ISO 1250
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Original scene:
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Judging by the noise ,the ISO1250 is underexposed. Try compensating + 2/3
gohaj
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Now that there is a M-lens adapter for m4/3 I'd wait for Olympus to bring out the announced m4/3 compact.
We may become a "cheap" substitute for any M8 user.
(That is besides the "me-too wealthy dentist-or-eye-surgery" type of user who can't live without a red dot of course.)
Ooops, this is the M8-Forum. I better run now.
is anyone using "M-lens adapter for m4/3" now?
Judging by the noise ,the ISO1250 is underexposed. Try compensating + 2/3
Feel free to email Uwe Steinmueller at outbackphoto.com as those shots are from his G1 and M8 reviews.
I have neither an M8 nor a G1.
is anyone using "M-lens adapter for m4/3" now?
Check this thread: http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4194
IGMeanwell
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To add to this thread for reference:
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/12/leica-lens-to-p.html
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/12/leica-lens-to-p.html
Tuolumne
Veteran
I found this thought by Richard from the above mentioned thread provocative:
"If Olympus or Leica has the vision, one of them should produce a simple rangefinder style m4/3 camera. Make it look like an M, for crying out loud. And if they are truly innovative, then produce an adapter with a reducing glass element to eliminate the crop factor. People would complain about why putting a $6000 Noctilux on a $800 body, but they would own the Leica users' souls. It's different enough from the M8 that they can justify existence of both."
An adapter with a reducing element would be just about the coolest thing ever!
/T
"If Olympus or Leica has the vision, one of them should produce a simple rangefinder style m4/3 camera. Make it look like an M, for crying out loud. And if they are truly innovative, then produce an adapter with a reducing glass element to eliminate the crop factor. People would complain about why putting a $6000 Noctilux on a $800 body, but they would own the Leica users' souls. It's different enough from the M8 that they can justify existence of both."
An adapter with a reducing element would be just about the coolest thing ever!
/T
Fred Burton
Well-known
I suppose they could rebadge still another camera, but really, what's the point? It's certain Leica isn't going to build plastic autofocus cameras. Would it make Leica users happier to see that red dot and pretend the $800 camera was a "real Leica?"
Tuolumne
Veteran
What Leica does is irrelevant. The important thing is what can be done with Leica glass. It seems inevitable that someone will make a reducing adapter for the m4/3rds format. Then we will have what's really important in the digital realm - a way to use superb M-mount lenses. For the purists there will still be the "real" Leica rangfinders. This would even benefit Leica if a way could be found to use all of their glass on other digital cameras without a crop factor! And imagine what it would do to the price used Leica glass. Whohoo...
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didjiman
Richard Man
"I found this thought by Richard..."
That would be me. Leica or Olympus needs to switch their way of thinking. Sure maybe no one will buy Leica lens for a m4/3 rangefinder, but I bet that almost everyone with Leica lens would want to buy a m4/3 rangefinder, especially if there is a crop factor cancellation adapter. Slight image quality loss? Who cares, the G1 is the price of some Leica lenscaps (I may be exaggerate here a little bits)!
That would be me. Leica or Olympus needs to switch their way of thinking. Sure maybe no one will buy Leica lens for a m4/3 rangefinder, but I bet that almost everyone with Leica lens would want to buy a m4/3 rangefinder, especially if there is a crop factor cancellation adapter. Slight image quality loss? Who cares, the G1 is the price of some Leica lenscaps (I may be exaggerate here a little bits)!
A crop factor cancellation adapter...hmm, like a reverse teleconverter?
How would this affect image quality? Seems like counter productive to take Leica glass and put another piece of glass in between. And maybe it would also result in light loss, so your 35/2 Summicron would now be a 35/2.8 or something. Thoughts?
How about Leica just make a 17mm/2 Summicron in micro 4/3 mount?
How would this affect image quality? Seems like counter productive to take Leica glass and put another piece of glass in between. And maybe it would also result in light loss, so your 35/2 Summicron would now be a 35/2.8 or something. Thoughts?
How about Leica just make a 17mm/2 Summicron in micro 4/3 mount?
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