Roger Hicks
Veteran
X100 really is a game changer whether we like it or not. Almost every serious photographer would eventually want of one these, or its similar competition.
Point fully taken about 'game changer', but for the highlighted portion, I don't think it's got much appeal to M9 owners. Yes, it's smaller and cheaper, but it also has a fixed, not-very-fast lens and an APS-C sensor. I'd quite like one, but I very strongly suspect that like every other camera I've ever considered as an alternative to my Leicas, it just wouldn't get used very much. I don't use my Retina IIa or my Rollei AF35M much as an alternative to film Leicas, and I'd be surprised if I used an X100 much as an alternative to the M9. Or even the M8.
Cheers,
R.
GSNfan
Well-known
Its not a M9 replacement, but one of these in a bag not only costs very little, but it weighs very little as well. X100 is the perfect combination of a p&s and a more serious RF-type camera, something which I'm sure a lot of serious photographers who mostly shoot at 35mm will find hard to ignore. M9 users will carry one of these as back up.
X100 release is like the ipod moment for still photography, from now on nothing will be the same.
X100 release is like the ipod moment for still photography, from now on nothing will be the same.
archeophoto
I love 1950's quality
If the X100 performs well with high ISO shots and the image quality is excellent, why would somebody care that it "only" has an APS-C sensor? You can't change the lens so it doesn't matter what size the sensor really is.
From what I've seen so far, the X100 outperforms the M9 in high ISO image quality. And that's what really matters to me as todays cameras all perform well in low ISOs.
If the high ISO perfomance of the X100 is great (as it looks like with the shoots I've seen) the F2 lens on it is more then sufficient and can compensate for a faster lens in 90% of the time.
It has been proven over many decades that the 35mm lens is an excellent choice for an "universal walk around camera". I think everybody buying the X100 is very well aware of the limitations arising from this.
I have to say I was very skeptical about the X100 for a long time. But the recent weeks and samples here on this forum won me over. I'm buying one as a backup and fun, small walk-around camera for my D700.
Bravo Fuji for showing that it is possible to produce a "niche market" camera for a decent price! A feat many Leica people said, is not possible.
From what I've seen so far, the X100 outperforms the M9 in high ISO image quality. And that's what really matters to me as todays cameras all perform well in low ISOs.
If the high ISO perfomance of the X100 is great (as it looks like with the shoots I've seen) the F2 lens on it is more then sufficient and can compensate for a faster lens in 90% of the time.
It has been proven over many decades that the 35mm lens is an excellent choice for an "universal walk around camera". I think everybody buying the X100 is very well aware of the limitations arising from this.
I have to say I was very skeptical about the X100 for a long time. But the recent weeks and samples here on this forum won me over. I'm buying one as a backup and fun, small walk-around camera for my D700.
Bravo Fuji for showing that it is possible to produce a "niche market" camera for a decent price! A feat many Leica people said, is not possible.
Point fully taken about 'game changer', but for the highlighted portion, I don't think it's got much appeal to M9 owners. Yes, it's smaller and cheaper, but it also has a fixed, not-very-fast lens and an APS-C sensor. I'd quite like one, but I very strongly suspect that like every other camera I've ever considered as an alternative to my Leicas, it just wouldn't get used very much. I don't use my Retina IIa or my Rollei AF35M much as an alternative to film Leicas, and I'd be surprised if I used an X100 much as an alternative to the M9. Or even the M8.
Cheers,
R.
maddoc
... likes film again.
Its not a M9 replacement, but one of these in a bag not only costs very little, but it weighs very little as well.
... I would not say that the X100 costs "very little" ...
Jim-st
Well-known
Not an alternative to an M8 or M9, right enough, but all the little pixels in all the X1's must be crying in their beer
Well done Andrew - first in the hemisphere!!!
Well done Andrew - first in the hemisphere!!!
shashinka-ichiban
写真家 一番
Not an M9 replacement, only a supplement. I think people are more afraid of the fact that if it succeeds there will be more of these digital rangefinder-like cameras out there, many more, and some may have interchangeable lenses. Might make one who has 25k in a Leica system a bit unnerved to kow they would be those who take their cakes from them in the same way those of use with 15k in film body SLRs felt when the first Digital Rebel came out. Now, I'm just sitting here waiting for my ship notice to arrive for my X100.
bwcolor
Veteran
Jeezez Louise .. You are all going to make the trip to the store unbearable. Relax.. no pressure.
GSNfan
Well-known
... I would not say that the X100 costs "very little" ...It costs 3 times what I paid in total for a Leica IIIb, new covering and a Leitz lens (35mm or 50mm).
In case you're shooting color, its very cheap. A body and a 35mm f2 lens with unlimited film supply, not to mention ISO 3200 and ISO 6400.
In case you're shooting B&W and using a fixed lens RF camera, then you're still ok.
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arrival date for canada is (tentatively) march 31...
skibeerr
Well-known
Good heavens,
they're getting ready to open up the floodgates of X100-cat-shots on all of us now!
I'm ready to pick up all those dead-cheap Hexar AF's until people start wanting them again, and then sell them back with profit![]()
Sorry Johan, I have got them all.
W
skibeerr
Well-known
Ooooooommmmmmm, There Is No Desire.......... No Craving.........my Mind's Eye Sees The Totality Of Things............envy Is Unknown To Me.......... I Am One With The Universe..........aaaarrgh I 'm Gonna Get Me That Bl**dy Camera.
andrew00
Established
For people in the UK - as the OP says, a couple of sellers have got a first batch of cameras in, looks only like a dozen or so per place, most of which have gone out in pre-orders. I managed to find one at LCE and it's coming tomorrow, which is awesome! So might be worth a ring around if anyone is super keen?
Mablo
Well-known
Must try to talk Johan over to spare me a Hexar AF or two when X100-generation will rush to sell them cheaply. In the meanwhile I'll enjoy the X100 by watching your test photos.
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
"but one of these in a bag not only costs very little,:
Only on RFF would a $1200 camera be classified as "costs very little!"
Only on RFF would a $1200 camera be classified as "costs very little!"
nobbylon
Veteran
"but one of these in a bag not only costs very little,:
Only on RFF would a $1200 camera be classified as "costs very little!"![]()
Indeed!
There's only one drawback that I can see from the sites i've looked at.
Seems to be a lot of in camera NR.
Oh and you can't use your Summilux's and Summicron's!
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Not an M9 replacement, only a supplement. I think people are more afraid of the fact that if it succeeds there will be more of these digital rangefinder-like cameras out there, many more, and some may have interchangeable lenses. Might make one who has 25k in a Leica system a bit unnerved to kow they would be those who take their cakes from them in the same way those of use with 15k in film body SLRs felt when the first Digital Rebel came out. Now, I'm just sitting here waiting for my ship notice to arrive for my X100.
Not really. If I thought an X100 would be better for me than an M9 and interchangeable lenses I could (and would, like a shot) sell my Thambar and buy two X100s. I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'take their cakes from them'. All I've cared about for years is getting pictures I like with cameras I like using -- which has probably harmed my career, as I could almost certainly sell more articles and books if I could get more excited about DSLRs, or indeed, before that, about oversize plastic autofocus film SLRs.
Cheers,
R.
retnull
Well-known
What if the X100 is unboxed, and it turns out that it's only...a camera?
Richard G
Veteran
Look, it's 5am here and I know that it's already 6pm there and even if your neighbor isn't home there are quite a few stray cats in London.
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What if the X100 is unboxed, and it turns out that it's only...a camera?
very twilight zone...
MartinP
Veteran
Am I the only one who is thinking of the prices of a Pentax K5 and the Fuji being relatively close . . . and indeed not that far from an M8.
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