Minolta Hi Matic 9...help!

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First of all I want to say 'Thank You' to one and all here at the RFF, what a cool group of people! I am really enjoying my first RF, a Konica Auto S2 that I just got back my first roll of film from the lab. Now I have been a digital person for the last 5 years and considering that I completely forgot to focus 1/3 of the shots, the others came out awesome! The color and texture of the shots were so far superior to what I have been used to, I couldn't be happier. Now I picked up a Minolta Hi Matic 9 that is cosmetically perfect, the only problem is that the rokkor 1.7 lens seems a bit sticky/stiff, any suggestions for smoothing it out abit. Also, it had an old battery in it, and it's not something I have seem before, is it going to be hard to replace? OK, one last question, I have a slew of cleaners for my digital camera's, but none of them seem like a good idea for the two little metal tanks that I now so love, what's good and safe to use to keep them looking new, and the envy of my DSLR?
 
Can you describe what is sticky/stiff about your Minolta Hi-Matic 9 lens? You mean the focus ring, the aperture, the shutter? Sometimes that old grease just needs to be worked around a bit - using it will loosen it up. Other times, it can benefit from a good CLA by a pro - they can relube the helicoil gears with something that doesn't break down over time like the old greases did.

The 'old battery' you mention - did it leak or something? If so, you can clean it out very nicely with vinegar and a q-tip. Takes corrosion of that sort right out - it's actually kind of fun to do. If you're talking about the voltage (mercury battery is 1.35 volts, modern replacements are 1.5), then we've just had a major discussion on this topic - but a quick recap is this:

Mercury batteries were banned some time ago, and this has caused a problem for cameras that were designed to use them. While there is no truly 100% satisfactory solution that works for everybody, many folks have chosen one or more of the following options:

1) Use a modern silver-oxide or alkaline battery and adjust the ISO to compensate for the difference in meter reading.
2) Same as above, but have the meter recalibrated by a specialist.
3) Use a Wein or other brand zinc-air battery designed for hearing aids (may have fabricate a spacer to make the battery fit). The zinc-air batteries are more expensive, don't last long, but are 1.4 volts - closer to the original.
4) Give it up and use an external meter.
5) Try to find last stashes of now-illegal-to-sell mercury batteries.
6) Buy one of the 'voltage converter/regulator' adapters on the market designed for just this situation.

I'm not going to recommend any one of those methods - you'll have to figure it out for yourself by reading the threads and applying logic to what works best for you. People get religion about this subject and it makes them angry if you don't like their pet solution, so I won't recommend one. Here are the options - you pick.

As to cleaning your babies - I use a little Windex and a micro-fiber towel to clean them up when I first get them home - some q-tips and lens cleaner also does wonders. Once they're clean, just dusting and wiping them off from time to time seems to do the trick. I generally stay away from trying to clean the leather on the body of the camera - I've found that it seldom needs any kind of cleaning and anyway, the products I've tried just ruin the leather anyway, so I tend to leave it alone.

I hope you enjoy your new RF cameras - nice choices, by the way!

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks
 
the hi-matic 9 is a funky little big rangefinder, with a great lens, i bet you will like the results from it. It's weird though, that it's either fully auto or fully manual with the EV-scale meter.
If you use colour negative film, give a try to the famous sunny-16 rule. You can use then your hi-matic without any batteries.
 
I dropped my hi-matic 9 off for an estimate (stuck in self-timer mode, otherwise appears to work. Even the meter fires up with a battery - I hear its often broken), and I'm beginning to dearly miss it already. Given the prices the shop wanted for the Canonets and other stuff, I need to go check to make sure they didn't sell it 😉

What's reasonable for CLA, and what does the A stand for anyway? Clean, Lubricate,... Alignment?
 
First off, the A stands for adjustment. I think 😉

Secondly, I had mine CLA'ed for $80, including shipping, by Mark Hama. It works like a charm now. Although I took the battery out, because I prefer using my hand-held meter anyway. The meter, however, was quite accurate when I was using it.

I think that you will definitely like the Hi-Matic 9. I love the results that I am getting with mine. The results with color film were truly stunning. But I have to respectfully disagree with Pherdinand. You can use the Hi-Matic 9 in apeture and shutter priority modes, in addition to full manual and auto. The only trouble I had with mine is that I could never figure out how to get the meter to turn off without putting on the lenscap, plus, like all metered cameras I have ever used, it was a touch slow on the draw.

Richie
 
$80 to $100 is about the norm it seems, I did find that if I go to a recommended shop in a nicer part of town, it was $30 more than the place I took my camera to that did a great job, but was a bit funky.
 
XAos said:
I dropped my hi-matic 9 off for an estimate (stuck in self-timer mode, otherwise appears to work. Even the meter fires up with a battery - I hear its often broken), and I'm beginning to dearly miss it already. Given the prices the shop wanted for the Canonets and other stuff, I need to go check to make sure they didn't sell it 😉

What's reasonable for CLA, and what does the A stand for anyway? Clean, Lubricate,... Alignment?

CLA = Clean, Lube, Arse-Up.

OK, just kidding. It's early. Adjust.

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks
 
Richie, IIRC you can turn the Hi-Matic metering off by moving the ASA lever all the way to the low end of the scale (to "0"). This works on my H-M 7. This feature is an "easter egg" not found found in the Hi-Matic manual. The meter on my camera is working but I often use Sunny-16; it's quicker.

In my opinion the Hi-Matic 7/7s/9/11 are among the best buys in fixed-lens RFs, comparable to the Konicas and Yashicas of the day. They have very fast and sharp lenses and will work w/out batteries (except the 11). The VF/RF patch is bright and the framelines are parallax-corrected. For $25 on the 'bay, what's not to like? Buy now before us RFFers drive up the prices!
 
cbass said:
Richie, IIRC you can turn the Hi-Matic metering off by moving the ASA lever all the way to the low end of the scale (to "0"). This works on my H-M 7. This feature is an "easter egg" not found found in the Hi-Matic manual. The meter on my camera is working but I often use Sunny-16; it's quicker.

In my opinion the Hi-Matic 7/7s/9/11 are among the best buys in fixed-lens RFs, comparable to the Konicas and Yashicas of the day. They have very fast and sharp lenses and will work w/out batteries (except the 11). The VF/RF patch is bright and the framelines are parallax-corrected. For $25 on the 'bay, what's not to like? Buy now before us RFFers drive up the prices!

Seconded! The Minolta is every bit as good, lens-wise, as the Canonet and the Yashica GSN. Big like the GSN, but a very, very, sharp lens. Totally overlooked on eBoy for some reason - that's a good thing for us.

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks
 
Yeah, but we all know that yashica's are worth of $1600 😀

cbass, why would you want to turn the meter off? When not on full auto, it's all-manual anyway, so the meter is just ...metering...isn't that true? (I might be wrong!I have no battery in mine!)
 
Pherdinand, you are correct. But the meter is not activated with the shutter release so I used to turn the meter off when I was not using the camera to avoid draining the battery. More of a habit than a necessity, really.

I'm reversing my position on the Hi-Matics. I meant to say that they are worthless junk; completely over-rated cameras with lenses that lack the resolving power of a beer bottle. For heaven's sake, don't waste your money on one of these! Out of the goodness of my heart, I will allow all RFFers to send me their unused Hi-Matics for proper "disposal". 😀
 
cbass said:
Buy now before us RFFers drive up the prices!

I bought mine for $13 before the postmaster got hold of it. I dont see it getting silly just yet. Really nice, only problem was it was stuck in self timer mode. Came with case, a bazillion flash bulbs and the collapsing metal daisy bulb flash unit I'm too lazy to go look up. Leather on the cases was nice.

I HATE iMac's and to me they personify the culture of buble shaped consumer items, rounded cases for artistic reasons that impede function (like not having any external hardpoints on a lawnmower to tow or jack from) - but I will admit that we HAVE learned a bit about ergonomics since whoever decided to use little tiny razor blades on the lens barrel for controls. I think you could actually cut yourself in cold weather on the Hi-Matic.
 
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The ISO settings for my Hi-Matic has an off setting, but that stopped working a week after I got it back from Mark Hama. I much prefer using my old Sekonic Studio Deluxe, anyway 😀

Richie
 
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