aleksanderpolo
Established
I was shooting GXR-M with 35/1.2 @1.4 yesterday, and as much as I love the combo, I really hope I can be shooting 50/1.4 on FF. So, how much are you willing to pay for a FF mirrorless. Let's assume it's a GXR M Module with mid-level sensor (<24MP), effective microlenses arrangement like the current M module.
I would gladly pay for $2000 for the M Module alone, and if there is an update in the body, additional for that too. How about you?
I hope that Ricoh and other maker can see this thread and be encouraged in that direction. :angel:
I would gladly pay for $2000 for the M Module alone, and if there is an update in the body, additional for that too. How about you?
I hope that Ricoh and other maker can see this thread and be encouraged in that direction. :angel:
DougFord
on the good foot
Yeah, I think you're at the sweet spot as far as price.
And i think Ricoh/Pentax could make a big splash come Sept. by announcing a FF live view module with an updated body with built-in EVF. This would be true head to head competition with the leica M9/10 sans the mechanical RF.
It would be very interesting if they go that route.
And i think Ricoh/Pentax could make a big splash come Sept. by announcing a FF live view module with an updated body with built-in EVF. This would be true head to head competition with the leica M9/10 sans the mechanical RF.
It would be very interesting if they go that route.
Sparrow
Veteran
... $1000 ... I thought we'd settled that over the weekend 
john neal
fallor ergo sum
Interesting, I had a dealer offer me a new Modul R for half price in the week that Leitz announced they were discontinued - I didn't have the cash then and now cannot find a modul for anywhere near that price - they seem to be v expensive if they ever turn up for sale.
In the end, I sold the R8 and went FF Canon EOS 5D
In the end, I sold the R8 and went FF Canon EOS 5D
thegman
Veteran
I like M lenses, but in DSLR territory, you can get into FF cheap with a second user 5D, or even a brand new Sony FF DSLR is not ridiculous. For me, the EVF/mirrorless thing is good, but not worth the extra pennies.
If they come down to circa APS-C prices, then that would be different, but at the moment, even the APS-C models can be a bit pricey compared to a Canon, Sony, or Nikon DSLR.
If they come down to circa APS-C prices, then that would be different, but at the moment, even the APS-C models can be a bit pricey compared to a Canon, Sony, or Nikon DSLR.
dct
perpetual amateur
Comparing the actual m4/3 or APS-C sized ICL offerings from Panasonic, Olympus, Ricoh, Sony and Fuji I have to accept something like +USD 1500...2000 for a step-up to a FF mirrorless with similar functionalities. This would be a fair plus IMHO.
Prices under USD 2000 for the FF ICL will remain wishful thinking...
Prices under USD 2000 for the FF ICL will remain wishful thinking...
Bobfrance
Over Exposed
Keep up you guys! Haven't you heard the rumours of Hasselblad bringing out a medium format mirrorless camera and Canon producing a medium format DSLR? It's time to raise your expectation up a notch.
And yes - I'd pay $1000 and not a penny more!
And yes - I'd pay $1000 and not a penny more!
aleksanderpolo
Established
I heard persistent rumor that the M10 is going to be $1000, so you say it's not real??!!
Surprise no one is interested in parting with their kidney yet, someone is willing to do it for a bunch of apple stuffs, come on guys.
Surprise no one is interested in parting with their kidney yet, someone is willing to do it for a bunch of apple stuffs, come on guys.
fotomeow
name under my name
I voted for two price ranges (you can do it in this poll, ya know), b/c I am much more interested in a FF 35mm (chose 1500-2k), and would pay more if I knew I would like the optics, but sight unseen, this is the best I can offer>
I also chose 500-1k) for the 50mm. same reasoning as above.
I also chose 500-1k) for the 50mm. same reasoning as above.
willie_901
Veteran
I really don't care what it costs as long as it has an OVF and a sensor with dynamic range and signal to noise at least as good as the D700.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I'd happily pay what I payed for my D700 provided it matched that camera's output and could mount the same lenses.
It's not enough to simply be mirrorless and full frame (not sure this matters to me anymore). For me, I need a really good internal viewfinder, relatively small size, fast AF, and classic shutter / aperture controls. Fuji has come closest.
Lss
Well-known
Sparrow
Veteran
... let me know when you find one, that's pretty much what I was looking for when I first considered a digital camera maybe 10 years back
EdwardKaraa
Well-known
I think a more realistic pricing would be around 3000$ to 4000$, probably closer to the latter. I would pay that price if the EVF is good, meaning much better than any of the rubbish currently offered by Sony, Olympus and Ricoh.
aleksanderpolo
Established
That would be close to the M9 price. I thought the whole mirrorless thing is about pretending to have an M8/M9 without paying the same price?
That would be close to the M9 price. I thought the whole mirrorless thing is about pretending to have an M8/M9 without paying the same price?
Half off is a huge discount no?
aleksanderpolo
Established
How much is a used M9 selling these days? I didn't pay much attention to its price as it is still in the "sell a kidney" range for me.
$5000 or so.
rbelyell
Well-known
these prices are crazy! fuji came out with one of the greatest mirrorless ever for $1500, with choice of 2 great vfs. sony, as much as i hate them and this particular idea, came out with a FF mirrorless WITH a (supposedly) zeiss lens for $2500. and folks are talking about $4000??!! $2-2500 tops, amd closer to 2 at that! and less for an M module on the gxr!
tony
tony