paniolo
Established
Hi Guys,
I am on the look for the most compact 50mm lens + camera combo.
The Rollei 35 and Olympus 35RC are just great, but with ~40mm too wide for my general photography.
I look for something similar in the compact camera world but just have found the Vito B and Leica CL as alternatives.
A meter is not needed, but RF would be nice.
The Rollei 35 with 50mm would be the winner, is there something similar?
Best Regards
Tobi
I am on the look for the most compact 50mm lens + camera combo.
The Rollei 35 and Olympus 35RC are just great, but with ~40mm too wide for my general photography.
I look for something similar in the compact camera world but just have found the Vito B and Leica CL as alternatives.
A meter is not needed, but RF would be nice.
The Rollei 35 with 50mm would be the winner, is there something similar?
Best Regards
Tobi
FrankS
Registered User
A Retina lla is pretty small but I'm not sure if it's the smallest.
Steve Bellayr
Veteran
Yashica GSN has a 45mm lens.
NeeZee
Well-known
The problem is that a 50mm lens will always make a 35mm camera less compact because the lens has to be (physically) longer. That said, there are a few really compact 35mm folding cams with 50mm lenses:
- voigtländer vito iia http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3552/3778101340_49f6d704d1.jpg
- the kodak retina series http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodak_Retina
there are many more - i guess there will be someone more knowledgable with respect to 35mm folders than me on here...
- voigtländer vito iia http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3552/3778101340_49f6d704d1.jpg
- the kodak retina series http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodak_Retina
there are many more - i guess there will be someone more knowledgable with respect to 35mm folders than me on here...
Phil_F_NM
Camera hacker
Diax IIb with 50mm Xenon.
A Barnack with a collapsible 50mm Elmar f/3.5
After that, a Barnack with 50mm Elmar f/2.8.
A Voigtlander Vitessa.
After that, maybe a CL/CLE with a new Summarit f/2.5 or the CV 50mm f/2.5.
Everything bigger than those that isn't a folding camera is almost the size of an M body and realistically, bigger than an OM-1 or Pentax MX with a pancake lens.
Phil Forrest
A Barnack with a collapsible 50mm Elmar f/3.5
After that, a Barnack with 50mm Elmar f/2.8.
A Voigtlander Vitessa.
After that, maybe a CL/CLE with a new Summarit f/2.5 or the CV 50mm f/2.5.
Everything bigger than those that isn't a folding camera is almost the size of an M body and realistically, bigger than an OM-1 or Pentax MX with a pancake lens.
Phil Forrest
NeeZee
Well-known
...and if you don't like folders and insist on having a rangefinder, the Braun Super Paxette might be the only option more compact than a barnack...
here's a nice rff thread of someone getting into that system: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93223
not more compact in all three dimensions, though.
here's a nice rff thread of someone getting into that system: http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93223
not more compact in all three dimensions, though.
02Pilot
Malcontent
Here's a dark horse: Certo Super Dollina II. 50/2.8 Tessar with rangefinder. 120x80x40mm vs. 95x65x40mm for the Rollei (both folded/lens compressed). That said, the Certo is a somewhat fussy camera to use (even by folder standards), but it is very capable if you're willing to put up with its idiosyncrasies.

Bingley
Veteran
The problem is that there just weren't very many (any?) compact, fixed lens cameras made w/ 50mm lenses during the golden age of such cameras (the late 60s through the early 80s). They tended to have ~40mm lenses or wider.
When I want/need a compact 50mm camera, I use a Barnack Leica w/ either a CV Skopar 50/2.5 or an Elmar 50/3.5. That kit will fit in a coat pocket.
When I want/need a compact 50mm camera, I use a Barnack Leica w/ either a CV Skopar 50/2.5 or an Elmar 50/3.5. That kit will fit in a coat pocket.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
Leica CL + Color Skopar 50mm f/2.5 for me. Small enough...
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Brian Legge
Veteran
There were plenty of normal focal length medium format cameras made though, some of which are about the same size as a Retina. Perhaps something like a Perkeo?
coelacanth
Ride, dive, shoot.
Had same question/quest a couple years ago, my answer was Barnack Leica + Elmar 50 (very slim but heavy and a bit less intuitive to use compared to modern camera) or CL + Color-Skopar (Modern UI and very light but thicker to carry).
Bingley
Veteran
Well, if an Olympus RC is compact enough, then a CL + CV50/2.5 should be fine; it's not much bigger. But you're not going to find a camera as compact as a Rollei 35 with a 50 lens.
Greyscale
Veteran
Altix V with a CZJ Tessar 2,8/50 is a tiny little beautiful thing.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Altix_IV.jpg
I wish I could find a broken donor body for one, mine is missing the lens mount.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Altix_IV.jpg
I wish I could find a broken donor body for one, mine is missing the lens mount.
Greyscale
Veteran
Oops, that was the fixed-lens Altix IV. Here is the V
Altix-V [CC-BY-SA-2.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0)], by Alfred (originally posted to Flickr as Altix-V), from Wikimedia Commons
It is much smaller than my Olympus 35 RC, to give an indication.

Altix-V [CC-BY-SA-2.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0)], by Alfred (originally posted to Flickr as Altix-V), from Wikimedia Commons
It is much smaller than my Olympus 35 RC, to give an indication.
FrankS
Registered User
Voightlander Vito b.
Ronald M
Veteran
Collapsible elmar on Leica body. 3.5 elmar is almost flat. 2.8 is around 1/2 "
Rollie 35 is a gem and would be my pick if only size matters.
Rollie 35 is a gem and would be my pick if only size matters.
aoresteen
Well-known
How about a Minox 35 camera? You get a 35mm lens though.
http://www.submin.com/35mm/collection/minox/35mm_variations.htm
http://www.submin.com/35mm/collection/minox/35mm_variations.htm
besk
Well-known
I don't believe they get any smaller or more sleek that
the Voightlander Vito II. At least I have been impressed
with mine.
the Voightlander Vito II. At least I have been impressed
with mine.
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kdemas
Enjoy Life.
Kodak Bantam Special Art Deco 828 camera. 45/2 lens.

02Pilot
Malcontent
I don't believe they get any smaller or more sleek that the Voightlander Vito II. At least I have been impressed
with mine.
If a rangefinder requirement is not critical, then I would agree with this. The Vito is really well-designed and pleasant to use.
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