ashrafazlan
Established
Either both of you are extremely lucky or you're viewfinder is different, but mine flares a lot whenever there's a strong light source. Same thing with the other 3 M6 classics I tried.
sepiareverb
genius and moron
Sepiareverb, the Extremely Lucky Idiot. I like the sound of that.
I don;t think we're doing anything wrong, I think we may just not be as finicky as those flare prone M6 users...
I don;t think we're doing anything wrong, I think we may just not be as finicky as those flare prone M6 users...
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ashrafazlan
Established
Finicky? Maybe, all I know is that my M8's viewfinder doesn't and my M6 does 
hteasley
Pupil
Finicky? Maybe, all I know is that my M8's viewfinder doesn't and my M6 does
Yes, I haven't experienced flare in my M8, either. And of course not on the M3.
ashrafazlan
Established
Yep, same with an Ikon i'll probably buy soon. To be honest though the patch flare really isn't that bad and it only happens in very limited situations (in which no amount of eye shifting will work) After a while you just learn to live with it
dreamsandart
Well-known
If I remember right… its been more than a few years since my M6…
The white out problem and the M6 happened when a strong light source was at an angle off to the right of the camera. Just the way the light entered to light gathering window I thought maybe at the time. It didn't happen often, but when it did moving my eye around to 'center' didn't help. I had to either change camera positions (which changed the photograph of course), or guess the focus distance.
As everyone knows the M3 and its unique M finder is the best for its clean rangefinder patch without white-out. All others can suffer to some degree with the late M4-2, M4-P, and M6 having the most problems (no condenser lens). The .85 suffers the worse, and the .58 best for no white out. And my personal best (non-M3) is the M5. For whatever reasons it was the least flare/white-out rangefinder patch of any M-series [again non-M3] I've had.
So now we can get on with the really important discussion; which is worst/better, an unlucky idiot, or a lucky idiot :angel:
The white out problem and the M6 happened when a strong light source was at an angle off to the right of the camera. Just the way the light entered to light gathering window I thought maybe at the time. It didn't happen often, but when it did moving my eye around to 'center' didn't help. I had to either change camera positions (which changed the photograph of course), or guess the focus distance.
As everyone knows the M3 and its unique M finder is the best for its clean rangefinder patch without white-out. All others can suffer to some degree with the late M4-2, M4-P, and M6 having the most problems (no condenser lens). The .85 suffers the worse, and the .58 best for no white out. And my personal best (non-M3) is the M5. For whatever reasons it was the least flare/white-out rangefinder patch of any M-series [again non-M3] I've had.
So now we can get on with the really important discussion; which is worst/better, an unlucky idiot, or a lucky idiot :angel:
N.delaRua
Well-known
These discussions always seem to to devolve into bashing the cameras that everyone constantly sings the praises of.......
It really simple, if you choose to use a Leica rangefinder there are unique advantages and disadvantages inherent to the Leica design.
Does a Leica M6 RF flare? Yes it does. Do all manual focus cameras have issues in certain lighting situation? Yes they do. Its even harder to focus a slow lens on a SLR than an RF especially long lens or slow wides in certain light because half of the split prims blacks out.
All I know is the topic of this post is about quality control on MP's. That does not make much sense to me considering MP stands for mechanical perfection..
I reckon your MP will be a great camera. I reckon if you buy an M6 it will be a great camera; I have a M6 TTl and my dad has an M3 DS both are great.
Furthermore, I am willing to bet that dust in the VF will have no affect on your photography.
In fact, all the M's are capable cameras. What you supposedly get with an MP is all the great mechanical perfection of the old M's with an improved VF and a meter. If you buy a camera sitting on a shelf for 5 years it will probably be dusty.... but it won't affect your photography. That has nothing to do with Leica's quality control.
It really simple, if you choose to use a Leica rangefinder there are unique advantages and disadvantages inherent to the Leica design.
Does a Leica M6 RF flare? Yes it does. Do all manual focus cameras have issues in certain lighting situation? Yes they do. Its even harder to focus a slow lens on a SLR than an RF especially long lens or slow wides in certain light because half of the split prims blacks out.
All I know is the topic of this post is about quality control on MP's. That does not make much sense to me considering MP stands for mechanical perfection..
I reckon your MP will be a great camera. I reckon if you buy an M6 it will be a great camera; I have a M6 TTl and my dad has an M3 DS both are great.
Furthermore, I am willing to bet that dust in the VF will have no affect on your photography.
In fact, all the M's are capable cameras. What you supposedly get with an MP is all the great mechanical perfection of the old M's with an improved VF and a meter. If you buy a camera sitting on a shelf for 5 years it will probably be dusty.... but it won't affect your photography. That has nothing to do with Leica's quality control.
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Vincent.G
Well-known
With a 3 year warranty, you have lots of time to sort out what's wrong with the camera if you use it this long. I read about the dust getting into the VF problem plaguing MPs but I think it is a small issue although I am not a MP user myself. My used M2 and M4 are not perfectly clean inside either and it does not affect the photo.
fbf
Well-known
I certainly won't pay more than $2k for a MP, no matter what you call it, the mechanical perfection or whatever.
It is a very good camera, great finder, great meter and pretty solid feel.
I sold the MP and bought two M2Rs. I have to say I don't miss the MP at all.
It is a very good camera, great finder, great meter and pretty solid feel.
I sold the MP and bought two M2Rs. I have to say I don't miss the MP at all.