New 220 Film!

[Nokton48]

rolleyes:. Shanghai is on lockdown (until everyone starves to death). So declareth Pharaoh Xi.

Yeah but I cancelled order from Shanghai, and ordered from Hong Kong. So unless they' re drop shipping it from Shanghai, they said they had enough in stock. So we will see. $12 a roll for fresh 220 is a good deal to me.

I now have sixteen unexposed rolls in house and have ordered twenty more from Hong Kong. Four exposed 220 rolls you see here are next to be developed

220 Shanghai twenty rolls. by Nokton48, on Flickr

Shanghai 220 Low Key Valentine Roses C22 105DS D23 by Nokton48, on Flickr

 

[Nokton48]

Can anybody verify if the Shanghai emulsion is made by ORWO?

 

[Rayt]

Amazon has a Shanghai GP3 seller so I ordered 5 rolls just now and will get them tomorrow with free Prime shipping.

 

[Bingley]

That was my exact thoughts too

I just purchased an A24 back on the ‘bay…. I listened to the Analogue Photography podcast with the two Wright brothers who are behind Cinestill. Excited about the prospect of 220 film coming back…

 

[Rayt]

I committed to 4 rolls of 220 400D but they are only 88% there with only a day left.

 

[james.liam]

Why do you suppose 220 wasn't popular? I wasn't shooting film when 220 was available, so I have no sense of it's popularity.

Wondering the same thing myself. Double the shots out of the same roll seems sensible, given developing costs. Unless jamming issues were more common with that format. Just guessing...

 

[ptpdprinter]

Wondering the same thing myself. Double the shots out of the same roll seems sensible, given developing costs. Unless jamming issues were more common with that format. Just guessing...

Well, 35mm film used to come in 20 and 36 exposure rolls. For some reason somewhere along the line they bumped up the 20 exposure rolls to 24. Now you can only get 36 exposure rolls. I am not really pining away for the good old days. Some people don't shoot much, so I guess they would sponsor a kickstarter for 20 exposure rolls. I have no idea why the disposable cameras come with 27 exposures. Probably someone suggested 24 and someone suggested 30, and they compromised on 27 because they were late for lunch.

 

[farlymac]

Tomorrow is the last day to register for some 220 from CineStill, and they were at 88% on the 15th, so you better get cracking if you've been riding the fence on this one. I ordered the two-roll offer last night, and there were plenty of slots left for the two-roll and five-roll offers. Remember, they won't ship until December of this year, but if production of the 220 doesn't happen you are guaranteed to get two rolls of 120 for each roll of 220 you signed up for.

My M645 220 inserts arrived Saturday, so I'm ready whenever the film arrives. Wish I could find 120 inserts as cheap as those 220's were (5 for $15).

PF

 

[james.liam]

Wondering what you can do with a 220 back if they don't make any (no thank you, not going for the Shanghai crap).

 

[farlymac]

Wondering what you can do with a 220 back if they don't make any (no thank you, not going for the Shanghai crap).

Hang on to them and hope someone else does make 220 film. Some backs/inserts will incur damage, or damage the camera if the wrong length of film is used in them. It varies though from one manufacturer to another, but most of them recommend you not do it. Same goes for cameras where all you have to do is switch the pressure plate position. If set on 220 it could exert too much drag on a 120 roll.

PF

 

[james.liam]

The campaign is now up to 89% of the required funding...

 

[Sarcophilus Harrisii]

Well, 35mm film used to come in 20 and 36 exposure rolls. For some reason somewhere along the line they bumped up the 20 exposure rolls to 24. Now you can only get 36 exposure rolls. I am not really pining away for the good old days. Some people don't shoot much, so I guess they would sponsor a kickstarter for 20 exposure rolls. I have no idea why the disposable cameras come with 27 exposures. Probably someone suggested 24 and someone suggested 30, and they compromised on 27 because they were late for lunch.

Actually they're just normal 24 exposure length, being pre-loaded, the extra 3 frames comes from not fogging the usual portion of a film leader.

 

[smiling gecko]

220 would be great for 6x9, 6x12, 6x17 and longer formats…more exposures between reloading.

we’ll see

 

[james.liam]

Seems worthwhile for any medium format. Long gone are the days of $5 film for 8, 10 or 12 exposures. Setting aside Seagull or Shanghai junk.

 

[ptpdprinter]

Actually they're just normal 24 exposure length, being pre-loaded, the extra 3 frames comes from not fogging the usual portion of a film leader.

I have never used a disposable camera. Is there no canister so they have to load the film in the dark?

 

[Sarcophilus Harrisii]

I have never used a disposable camera. Is there no canister so they have to load the film in the dark?

I haven't either for that matter. But they have a cassette—over the years I have developed a few rolls of Ilford black and white (HP5+ from memory) for other people who used disposable cameras. Removing the exposed film for processing is therefore easy enough, providing one does not get a jolt from the flash capacitor (speaking from experience, not lot of fun). The 27 exposure film rolls I have handled, however are the same length as other 24 exposure rolls from pre-loaded cassettes I have developed. I don't know the specific details about how disposable cameras are assembled, but they are modular, and the front/rear shells secure some of the internal components as they get clipped together. Logically, I expect the two halves would be pre-assembled with all their parts minus the film—thus, only the insertion of the film and closing together of the shells would actually need to take place in darkness.

 

[james.liam]

Well, the campaign is now 90% funded and CineStill has extended the deadline by a week!!!

So those still hesitating and interested, 2 rolls @ $60 is a small price to pay for the resurrection of 220 and creation of a brand new film stock..