New ADVANCED Point N Shoot Forum ?

[sevo]

Voted no. At about two topics per day, the forum is hardly overrun, and many posters will have very different opinions as to whether their camera or photography are advanced and where they belong. Drawing a line by criteria which have themselves been the seed of arguments is likely to hold up only through heavy moderator policing, which will hardly improve the spirit of the forum.

 

[pvdhaar]

Voted 'no'.

We'd get endless debate about which P&S would and would not fit the category. By the 'fixed' lens designation, you'd get the Minilux-zoom in the cheapy section, and the Stylus-Epic in the advanced forum.. which, given their 8x new price difference would be a bit odd..

 

[Dave Wilkinson]

I don't see much point in complicating things further 🙂

 

[rxmd]

No. What's the point? If people don't write about them now in the Point & Shoot forum, they're not going to start just because there's yet another forum.

There's an old principle that has worked well since the USENET days - If people want to communicate about something, they will. See if people talk about these cameras enough elsewhere, and if there's enough of a critical mass and the Point & Shoot forum gets clogged up with all the people talking about Leica X1s, by all means give them a forum. However, I haven't seen that happening so far.

 

[jsrockit]

The X1 is not a P&S...nor is the GXR.

 

[Benjamin]

So will the 'ADVANCED Point N Shoot' forum cover any compact camera with manual ability? What exactly constitutes and advanced P&S? Fully manual, semi auto?

Seems that it may just confuse things further, though I'd agree that many of the cameras are light years ahead of others that they share the current forum with.

Perhaps it also too late to change it now, with so many prosumer grade compacts already lumped in the basic P&S Forum?

I won't vote for now, as I'm not really sure either way.

 

[januaryman]

I have a Hexar AF, a camera I consider a quality P&S, but why break it apart from the other lesser cameras? This is liable to start issues such as "Why isn't -X- included in the Advanced P&S sub forum?" I know what the Hexar can do and don't need it validated by referring to it as "advanced."

What's next, Advanced (Evil) SLR's?

 

[Philly]

What's next, Advanced (Evil) SLR's?

How about, Retarded Holga's?

Or we could go with back alley:

if it were up to me there would be nothing but rangefinder forums here.

joe

 

[oftheherd]

Agreed, we already have one, no need to split it up because all types of point and shoots are already discussed there. Leave it be.

I agree. I think we have enough forums for now. Personally, I vote no.

 

[oftheherd]

Voted No.

And while we're at it, can '120 RF's' and '120 RF's Modern' be combined into one category??


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I think the 120 RF's has become more of a 120 folders forum. Anyway, as I stated on the reason for the thread, I personally think we have enough forums. Just my opinion of course.

Edit: Crossed wires (I should have spit out my gum before trying to type). I meant to say old versus new as I think is appropriate.

 

[ferider]

Voted no.

There are advanced P&S as well as entry ones. Same is true for inter-changable RFs, SLRs, etc., and we don't distinguish those.

 

[RayPA]

I think the 120 RF's has become more of a 120 folders forum. Anyway, as I stated on the reason for the thread, I personally think we have enough forums. Just my opinion of course.

Edit: Crossed wires (I should have spit out my gum before trying to type). I meant to say old versus new as I think is appropriate.

Well there is already a '120 Folders' forum and a '120 RF' and a '120 RF Modern'. The distinction between the latter two is too fine. Folders are unique enough for their own forum but, I'd like to see all other 120 RF's in a single forum.

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[fidget]

A Yes vote from me, but only to differentiate between film P&S and Digi P&S.

 

[jsrockit]

How about large sensor vs. small sensor P&S? Those categories could work.

 

[sevo]

Whatever we differentiate by, there is little point in splitting something that is not big enough. Fot my taste, we are already way too split - I mostly rely on the "new posts" feature and rarely browse by category, as my interests have been scattered over dozens of categories...

 

[DougFord]

[FONT=&quot]As noted, the stickler is the word ‘Advanced’. I can appreciate the desire to refine the P&S category though.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]As already suggested perhaps a separate ‘compact fixed lens digital’ category would suffice. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Panasonic LX3, Leica X1, Samsung TL550, Canon G11 etc would all be candidates.[/FONT]

 

[sevo]

[FONT=&quot]As noted, the stickler is the word ‘Advanced’. I can appreciated the desire to refine the P&S category though.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]As already suggested perhaps a separate ‘compact fixed lens digital’ category would suffice. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Panasonic LX3, Leica X1, Samsung TL550, Canon G11 etc would all be candidates.[/FONT]

Not to forget that 5€ keychain thing and my kids "My first Camera" - fixed lens is not really a good distinction. Why aren't we honest about it and call it "bloody expensive point-and-shoots"? After all, that is what it mostly is about... 😀

More seriously, "Point and Shoot" has generated an average of merely two threads per day recently. There is no reason why a separate category for "lush budget advanced fixed lens large sensor point and shoot" should do anything other than split the already meagre traffic between two categories...

Sevo

 

[FS Vontz]

Too many categories already

 

[crawdiddy]

I think fewer categories is generally better-- fewer places to search, etc.

However, when I recently tried to research Nikonos, I found they were in the Scale Focus category. Of course, that's accurate-- they are scale focus. But the fact that they're an underwater camera seems more significant to me. Underwater Photography could reasonably have its own category. But very few people would post there. So, I get it.

Anyway, I say NO to an Advanced P&S category.

 

[FrankS]

How about reorganizing the whole sha-bang with fewer categories? It's not like the specific categories are helping the search function at RFF.

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