New C41 Film

[wlewisiii]

I told them but I don't think they adjusted for it, so it just ended up overexposed. This was the second roll they'd seen - first was earlier the same day. I am shooting the second roll at box and trying to be more careful about the exposures.

 

[luuca]

oversaturated, overcontrasted, terribly grainy, I like it!

with Olympus XA, home developed with tetenal c41

 

[jbielikowski]

Rated at "mathematical" ISO 123.5, shot with Widelux F7 on December 31st. Scanned with Epson V850 and Epson software, minor adjustments in PS.

I like it better than regular expired film I used to shoot alot.

 

[jbielikowski]

Only downside is that the combined poor contre jour performance of Widelux and no anti-halation mask can produce some almost unusable results, but most of the time it's just "a lot of character".

 

[jbielikowski]

I'm looking forward to try next iterations of this film, and paying 15$ per roll so they can pay for more R&D without some kickstarter BS is a fair deal for me.

 

[wlewisiii]

I'm looking forward to try next iterations of this film, and paying 15$ per roll so they can pay for more R&D without some kickstarter BS is a fair deal for me.

I am in complete agreement with this sentiment. Nice shot, takes good advantage of this iteration too, I think.

 

[x-ray]

There was a comment above about how poorly Kodak C-41 films handled Asian skin tones. In the 70’s my Kodak commercial rep (TSR) said that both Kodak and Fuji had different formulations for Asian skin tones. Kodak did it by reducing the yellow saturation and Fuji did it by adding a little extra magenta to warm up the yellow biased skin tones.

I know with E-6 film since I used thousands of rolls and sheets yearly that Fuji had a little extra magenta and Agfa 50 and 100 transparency films were biased to the warm side due to European and Scandinavian skin being more pale. In the 80’s and 90’s Kodak offered neutral, warm tone and vivid E-6 transparency films. The warm was about like an 81A added to the neutral and the vivid was a couple of clicks less than Velvia but much more neutral. Skin tones were beautiful on these films.

 

[wlewisiii]

Interesting. That was my comment as it was the problem I had after we adopted our child from Vietnam. I loved how Fuji Reala showed him but Kodak films never were as good. This is informative.

 

[x-ray]

You really can’t pull C-41 very well. It’s designed to go the full development time and results are less than optimal if reduced. Exposure has more impact on color saturation and contrast than development. As you can see over exposure gives some bold negs which are pretty interesting. I don’t know if I’d do it as a routine but sort of like the effect. It reminds me a little of cross processing E-6 in C-41 chemistry.

 

[tortellini_man]

here are some of my pictures from my first time trying phoenix; i did adjust the tint a little bit so it wasnt so overpoweringly orange, but i like the grainyness

 

[Rikard]

Just received 3 rolls of phoenix. I do like some of the images I've seen from this film. And reading this article I think I will expose it at 160 and avoid super contrasty scenes. And ask for a Noritsu scan.

Harman Phoenix. The good, the bad and the ugly – Carmencita Film Lab

carmencitafilmlab.com

Or did you guys scan yourselves? I have a Plustek Opticfilm 120.

 

[Retro-Grouch]

When this film first came out, there was some discussion on-line about cross-processing in E6 as a transparency film. I've seen nothing further, though the few folks who tried it indicated that the results were promising but needed experimentation with filtration, etc. Now that Kodak/Alaris has been sold (and Fujichrome seems dead in the water), I'm getting real nervous that Ektachrome might join the Dodo. That means no more transparency films in 120. So does anyone know anything more about cross-processing Phoenix?

 

[wlewisiii]

Just got an email that CiniStill will be selling Phoenix in 120 soon. May try it in the Rollei for S&G.